Middle leadership might just be the hardest job in school - not because the role itself is impossible, but because so few leaders are ever truly prepared for what it demands. In this episode, Allan sits down with Darius Samojlowicz, Executive Officer of the Mathematics Association of New South Wales, for an honest and practical conversation about what it really means to lead from the middle. Darius unpacks why middle leaders so often feel isolated, under-resourced and caught between the vision of senior leadership and the day-to-day realities of classroom teachers. He and Allan explore how relational trust is built through small, consistent actions, like knowing your team's names, following through on commitments, and making people feel genuinely heard. One of the most compelling ideas in this episode is Darius's belief that the best leadership thinking often happens in moments that look like doing nothing. Drawing on the calm, deliberate approach of paramedics and firefighters arriving at a scene, he makes a powerful case for pausing before acting, gathering information rather than reacting - as one of the most underrated leadership skills a middle leader can develop. The conversation also turns practical for leaders who feel overwhelmed, offering a simple but effective framework for prioritising when everything feels urgent at once. Whether you are new to a middle leadership role or have been in one for years, this episode will help you understand your position in the school more clearly and lead within it with greater confidence. Darius closes with a message that is both simple and deeply encouraging: you were given this role because someone recognised something in you. Back yourself. LINKS Explore AAMT’s resources, events, and news:https://aamt.edu.au/ Darius Samojlowiczhttps://linkedin.com/in/darius-samojlowicz-72b72217a  Mathematical Association of NSWhttps://www.mansw.nsw.edu.au/  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.