In this episode, artist Charles Gaines and fashion designer Grace Wales Bonner explore how art can bridge the gap between what we perceive and what is real, prompting us to question our relationship with truth. Gaines’s conceptual systems challenge the notion of a singular truth, while Bonner’s fashion designs reveal the layers of identity and history embedded in her work. How do subjective interpretation and objective reality intersect, and where is the line between what we see and what is real? Music in this episode: Charles GainesManifestos 6: Ben Patterson. 2023 Performance presented as part of the exhibition Artist’s Choice: Grace WalesBonner—Spirit Movers, The Museum of Modern Art, New York, November 16, 2023–April 7, 2024 Performed and filmed on March 21, 2024 Composer: Charles GainesConductor and music director: John EagleProducer: Mads FalconeViolin: Yaz LancasterViolin: Connie LiViola: Jay JulioCello: Wayne SmithBass: Marguerite CoxPercussion and xylophone: Pauline RobertsTrumpet: Wayne du MaineTrombone: Sterling DavisTuba: Jono Hill Video documentation and editing: Oresti Tsonopoulos, Alex MunroAudio mix: Shane O’Connell Artist’s Choice: Grace Wales Bonner—Spirit Movers is organized by Grace Wales Bonner with Michelle Kuo, The Marlene Hess Curator, Dana Liljegren, Curatorial Assistant, and Elizabeth Wickham, Curatorial Assistant, Department of Painting and Sculpture, MoMA, with the collaboration of Nick Murphy, Curatorial Partner, Pantograph, Paris. Produced by Lizzie Gorfaine, Associate Director and Producer, Performance and Live Programs, with Aminah Ibrahim, Assistant Performance Coordinator, Performance and Live Programs, MoMA. Thanks to Liam Sangmuah and Jessica Hamenyimana, Research Associates, Wales Bonner. © 2024 The Museum of Modern Art, New York Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

<description>In this episode, artist Charles Gaines and fashion designer Grace Wales Bonner explore how art can bridge the gap between what we perceive and what is real, prompting us to question our relationship with truth.

Gaines’s conceptual systems challenge the notion of a singular truth, while Bonner’s fashion designs reveal the layers of identity and history embedded in her work. How do subjective interpretation and objective reality intersect, and where is the line between what we see and what is real?


Music in this episode:

Charles Gaines
Manifestos 6: Ben Patterson. 2023

Performance presented as part of the exhibition Artist’s Choice: Grace Wales
Bonner—Spirit Movers, The Museum of Modern Art, New York, November 16, 2023–April 7, 2024

Performed and filmed on March 21, 2024

Composer: Charles Gaines
Conductor and music director: John Eagle
Producer: Mads Falcone
Violin: Yaz Lancaster
Violin: Connie Li
Viola: Jay Julio
Cello: Wayne Smith
Bass: Marguerite Cox
Percussion and xylophone: Pauline Roberts
Trumpet: Wayne du Maine
Trombone: Sterling Davis
Tuba: Jono Hill

Video documentation and editing: Oresti Tsonopoulos, Alex Munro
Audio mix: Shane O’Connell

Artist’s Choice: Grace Wales Bonner—Spirit Movers is organized by Grace Wales Bonner with Michelle Kuo, The Marlene Hess Curator, Dana Liljegren, Curatorial Assistant, and Elizabeth Wickham, Curatorial Assistant, Department of Painting and Sculpture, MoMA, with the collaboration of Nick Murphy, Curatorial Partner, Pantograph, Paris. Produced by Lizzie Gorfaine, Associate Director and Producer, Performance and Live Programs, with Aminah Ibrahim, Assistant Performance Coordinator, Performance and Live Programs, MoMA.

Thanks to Liam Sangmuah and Jessica Hamenyimana, Research Associates, Wales Bonner.

© 2024 The Museum of Modern Art, New York


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With Charles Gaines and Grace Wales Bonner

In this episode, artist Charles Gaines and fashion designer Grace Wales Bonner explore how art can bridge the gap between what we perceive and what is real, prompting us to question our relationship with truth.

Gaines’s conceptual systems challenge the notion of a singular truth, while Bonner’s fashion designs reveal the layers of identity and history embedded in her work. How do subjective interpretation and objective reality intersect, and where is the line between what we see and what is real?


Music in this episode:

Charles Gaines
Manifestos 6: Ben Patterson. 2023

Performance presented as part of the exhibition Artist’s Choice: Grace Wales
Bonner—Spirit Movers, The Museum of Modern Art, New York, November 16, 2023–April 7, 2024

Performed and filmed on March 21, 2024

Composer: Charles Gaines
Conductor and music director: John Eagle
Producer: Mads Falcone
Violin: Yaz Lancaster
Violin: Connie Li
Viola: Jay Julio
Cello: Wayne Smith
Bass: Marguerite Cox
Percussion and xylophone: Pauline Roberts
Trumpet: Wayne du Maine
Trombone: Sterling Davis
Tuba: Jono Hill

Video documentation and editing: Oresti Tsonopoulos, Alex Munro
Audio mix: Shane O’Connell

Artist’s Choice: Grace Wales Bonner—Spirit Movers is organized by Grace Wales Bonner with Michelle Kuo, The Marlene Hess Curator, Dana Liljegren, Curatorial Assistant, and Elizabeth Wickham, Curatorial Assistant, Department of Painting and Sculpture, MoMA, with the collaboration of Nick Murphy, Curatorial Partner, Pantograph, Paris. Produced by Lizzie Gorfaine, Associate Director and Producer, Performance and Live Programs, with Aminah Ibrahim, Assistant Performance Coordinator, Performance and Live Programs, MoMA.

Thanks to Liam Sangmuah and Jessica Hamenyimana, Research Associates, Wales Bonner.

© 2024 The Museum of Modern Art, New York


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Perception vs. Truth

In this episode, artist Gary Simmons and “Surviving R. Kelly” filmmaker dream hampton examine personal and collective memory, what we choose to remember, and what we choose to forget.  Simmons reflects on how cultural memory—particularly through race and erasure—has influenced his work, from his iconic chalkboard drawings to his installations that blur the lines between representation and abstraction, while hampton considers the silencing of certain memories and the power of reclaiming erased narratives.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

<description>In this episode, artist Gary Simmons and “Surviving R. Kelly” filmmaker dream hampton examine personal and collective memory, what we choose to remember, and what we choose to forget. 

Simmons reflects on how cultural memory—particularly through race and erasure—has influenced his work, from his iconic chalkboard drawings to his installations that blur the lines between representation and abstraction, while hampton considers the silencing of certain memories and the power of reclaiming erased narratives. 
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With Gary Simmons and dream hampton

In this episode, artist Gary Simmons and “Surviving R. Kelly” filmmaker dream hampton examine personal and collective memory, what we choose to remember, and what we choose to forget. 

Simmons reflects on how cultural memory—particularly through race and erasure—has influenced his work, from his iconic chalkboard drawings to his installations that blur the lines between representation and abstraction, while hampton considers the silencing of certain memories and the power of reclaiming erased narratives. 
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Memory

Liberty: A principle emphasizing freedom, autonomy, and the inherent rights of individuals. In this episode, artist Lorna Simpson and poet and scholar Dr. Elizabeth Alexander question the nature of individual rights, autonomy, and separate the idea of "liberty" from "freedom" via Simpson's evocative representations of race, gender, and identity and Alexander's celebrated poetic insights. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

<description>Liberty: A principle emphasizing freedom, autonomy, and the inherent rights of individuals.

In this episode, artist Lorna Simpson and poet and scholar Dr. Elizabeth Alexander question the nature of individual rights, autonomy, and separate the idea of "liberty" from "freedom" via Simpson's evocative representations of race, gender, and identity and Alexander's celebrated poetic insights.
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With Lorna Simpson

Liberty: A principle emphasizing freedom, autonomy, and the inherent rights of individuals.

In this episode, artist Lorna Simpson and poet and scholar Dr. Elizabeth Alexander question the nature of individual rights, autonomy, and separate the idea of "liberty" from "freedom" via Simpson's evocative representations of race, gender, and identity and Alexander's celebrated poetic insights.
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Liberty

Inquiry: The spirit of questioning, exploring, and seeking to understand, rather than merely accept, established truths. In this episode, artist Pipilotti Rist and MOCA curator Anna Katz unearth the dynamic relationship between nature, technology, and the human experience. Image Credit: Pipilotti Rist, Twin concept pictures, 2023 © Pipilotti Rist. Courtesy the artist and Hauser &amp; Wirth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

<description>Inquiry: The spirit of questioning, exploring, and seeking to understand, rather than merely accept, established truths.
 
In this episode, artist Pipilotti Rist and MOCA curator Anna Katz unearth the dynamic relationship between nature, technology, and the human experience.

Image Credit: Pipilotti Rist, Twin concept pictures, 2023 © Pipilotti Rist. Courtesy the artist and Hauser &amp; Wirth.
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With Pipilotti Rist

Inquiry: The spirit of questioning, exploring, and seeking to understand, rather than merely accept, established truths.
 
In this episode, artist Pipilotti Rist and MOCA curator Anna Katz unearth the dynamic relationship between nature, technology, and the human experience.

Image Credit: Pipilotti Rist, Twin concept pictures, 2023 © Pipilotti Rist. Courtesy the artist and Hauser & Wirth.
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Inquiry

Progress: the belief in constant societal advancement through reason, knowledge, and education. In this episode, artist Thomas J Price and renowned scholar Steven Pinker discuss the challenges of defining human advancement and the importance of measuring both tangible and intangible progress. Image Credit: Installation view, ‘Thomas J Price, Untitled (Icon) Series,’ 2017 © Thomas J Price. Courtesy the artist and Hauser &amp; Wirth. Photo: Ken Adlard Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

<description>Progress: the belief in constant societal advancement through reason, knowledge, and education.
 
In this episode, artist Thomas J Price and renowned scholar Steven Pinker discuss the challenges of defining human advancement and the importance of measuring both tangible and intangible progress.

Image Credit: Installation view, ‘Thomas J Price, Untitled (Icon) Series,’ 2017 © Thomas J Price. Courtesy the artist and Hauser &amp; Wirth. Photo: Ken Adlard
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With Thomas J Price

Progress: the belief in constant societal advancement through reason, knowledge, and education.
 
In this episode, artist Thomas J Price and renowned scholar Steven Pinker discuss the challenges of defining human advancement and the importance of measuring both tangible and intangible progress.

Image Credit: Installation view, ‘Thomas J Price, Untitled (Icon) Series,’ 2017 © Thomas J Price. Courtesy the artist and Hauser & Wirth. Photo: Ken Adlard
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Progress

In season 2, we go beyond the Edge of Reason and explore the line where left-brain meets right-brain, where logic ends and creativity begins. 
Tune in as groundbreaking contemporary artists discuss the concepts that define their artistic outlook in all-new episodes from Hauser & Wirth and Atlantic Re:think, the creative marketing studio at The Atlantic.

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