That's Church.
That's Church.

That's Church.

Emilie Call and Ashlie Sanders

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✨We’re Emilie and Ashlie, two sisters attending different churches in Utah, building bridges across belief systems. Through podcasts, church visits, events, and honest conversations, we explore what faith, spirituality, and community look like for people from all paths. No pressure to convert, no need to persuade - just space to belong, be seen, and grow with curiosity and love.♥️

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S2 E48: Sisterhood, Nuance, & Speaking up with Allyson Reynolds & Tiffany Sowby
SEP 5, 2025
S2 E48: Sisterhood, Nuance, & Speaking up with Allyson Reynolds & Tiffany Sowby
Rising VioletBefore we dive in, we want to highlight Rising Violet, the nonprofit Tiffany founded. Rising Violet provides one-time $1,000 gifts to women pursuing financial independence, with priority given to mothers who once relied on a partner and now need to be self-supporting. Applications are accepted three times a year (deadlines: Jan 31, May 31, Sep 30). Applicants must live in the U.S., complete a short essay and call with a board member, and consent to a background check limited to financial crimes. These gifts are a powerful way to help women move toward stability with dignity.Episode summaryAllyson Reynolds and Tiffany Sowby, co-hosts of The Sisterhood Podcast, join us to talk about friendship, faith, and the power of hard conversations. Their podcast was born out of a love for women’s stories and a need for candid dialogue around the intersection of faith, politics, social issues, and interfaith experiences. Together, they’ve built a space where women who love the gospel but sometimes struggle with the church can feel less alone.About our guestsThe Sisterhood Podcast grew from Allyson and Tiffany’s years of writing and organizing with Power of Moms. Over time it has evolved into an encouraging place for women across the faith spectrum—orthodox, nuanced, or post-LDS. • Allyson grew up mostly in the Midwest, has lived all over the U.S., and now lives in Minnesota. • Tiffany was born and raised in England and now lives in Utah. Together they’re raising nine kids, plus a dog and some goats.What we cover • The friendship and creative spark that led to The Sisterhood Podcast • Why they resisted becoming “just another Mormon mom podcast” and leaned into broader women’s issues • How interfaith experiences shaped their faith and outlook • Backing each other up in church conversations, not just speaking out • Creating a welcoming space across the faith spectrum • Why practice makes hard conversations easierStories & themes • Tiffany’s interfaith childhood: growing up LDS near London alongside Catholic, Muslim, and Hindu friends • Allyson’s perspective shift: from an “only true church” mindset in the Midwest to learning from a Muslim roommate at BYU and later a mission in Japan • Utah culture chats: the “mission field” mindset and assumptions about who is or isn’t LDS • Learning to speak up: why courage and community matter in making space for diverse voicesBooks mentioned • If the Tide Turns — Rachel Rueckert • The Distance Between Us — Reyna Grande • The Courage to Be Disliked — Ichiro Kishimi & Fumitake KogaLight-hearted closersStories of bumpers needing babysitters, surprise window encounters after a shower, and awkward pediatrician moments because we always end with humor.Connect with usFollow along for updates on episodes, events, field trips, and our upcoming retreat: • Instagram: @thatschurchpodcast • Website: thatschurch.org
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86 MIN
S2 E47: Mother in Heaven: Studies, Stories and The Sacred Feminine with McArthur Krishna, Trina Caudle & Ashli Carnicelli
MAY 22, 2025
S2 E47: Mother in Heaven: Studies, Stories and The Sacred Feminine with McArthur Krishna, Trina Caudle & Ashli Carnicelli
Guests:Ashli Carnicelli – Writer, singer, and passionate believer in the Divine FeminineTrina Caudle – Editor, historian, scoutmaster, and macro-photographerMcArthur Krishna – Author, artist, and advocate for spiritual wholenessTopics Covered:Ashli’s Catholic upbringing and connection to Mary, the mother of JesusMcArthur’s years in India and insights into Hindu goddesses and the Divine FeminineTrina’s interfaith experience as a scoutmaster in Methodist and Presbyterian spacesTangible stories of connection with Heavenly MotherHow Mother in Heaven: A Gospel Topics Essay Study Guide came to lifeAdvice for those just beginning to explore their relationship with Heavenly MotherResources Mentioned:📘 Mother in Heaven: A Gospel Topics Essay Study Guide – Order on Amazon📝 Gospel Topics Essay: Mother in Heaven – Read it hereFollow Us:📸 Instagram: @thatschurchpodcast🎧 Listen to Meagan’s podcast Beyond the Shadow of Doubt wherever you get your podcasts🧘‍♀️ SPONSOR SHOUTOUTWe’re also excited to share something personal that’s been helping us on our own spiritual path. Maryam Jubera of Mental Mocean offers “meditations that move the mind”and they truly do. With a Master’s in Coaching and advanced NLP certification, plus a life full of real healing, Maryam brings unmatched depth to her work.Her online meditation program is just $5/month, and it’s designed to be accessible, transformative, and lasting. You can find her on Instagram at @mentalmocean and explore her offerings at www.mentalmocean.life. Use our code THATCHURCH50 when you join.
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86 MIN