The TV industry is fascinated with true crime, but has it gone too far? In this episode, Kiki is joined by Ryan Bailey, host of the So Bad It's Good podcast, to explore the reality TV industry's reckoning with crime and the impact it has on the lives of the stars. Together they delve into the Vanity Fair article featuring Bethenny Frankel and the lack of significant changes that came from it. The discussion also touches on high-profile legal cases, such as Tom Girardi's trial and the representation of reality stars by the same lawyer. They ponder the increase in crime-related storylines in reality TV and the pressure it puts on the cast members, as well as the financial struggles and mental health challenges faced by reality stars. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the evolving perception of Erika Jayne in light of the Girardi scandal, the future of the genre, and the potential for more criminal cases in reality shows.

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