<p>Chris and Mike are joined by Julie Wong to explore why so many founders avoid the numbers — and how reframing finance as storytelling (not maths) helps leaders feel more in control and make better decisions.</p><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>