In this episode, I sit down with vocalist, composer, and guitarist Becca Stevens for a conversation that moved me in ways I honestly wasn’t expecting.
We start with life right now for Becca: juggling touring, writing, teaching, and “momming” two little ones. She talks about how becoming a parent has completely reshaped her artistry, forcing a new level of efficiency, deepening her sense of purpose, and shifting her focus from serving herself to serving the song (and her kids). There’s a beautiful thread here about how parenthood strips away the illusion that we are the most important thing, and how that shows up in her singing and writing.
From there, we go back to the North Carolina School of the Arts, where everything really changed for her. Becca shares how she went from being the misunderstood “class clown” to finding her footing in an arts environment, discovering classical guitar almost by accident, and realizing that music alone was more than enough for a lifetime of exploration. We also talk about how jazz became her teenage rebellion, and how a wildly diverse listening palette—Bartók, Steve Reich, Joni Mitchell, Björk, and more still fuels her fearless tendency to never stay in one musical lane for long.
Becca also takes us inside the creative process behind several key projects:
We dig into her deep love of collaboration and what it’s like to work with some truly legendary musicians, including Antonio Sánchez, Jacob Collier, Brad Mehldau, Scott Colley, and more. Becca talks about knowing when to serve someone else’s vision and when to step in with her own ideas. Whether that’s bringing original material to Antonio, layering vocals for Edward Simon, building a stop-motion fever dream with Jacob Collier for “Bathtub,” or stepping into Brad Mehldau’s world as both a fan and a collaborator.
One of the most powerful parts of this conversation centers around grief and Maple to Paper. I share how that album helped me process the loss of my dad—how it made me feel seen and validated in a way I hadn’t been able to put into words. Becca opens up about losing her mom, the complicated nature of parent–child relationships, and how those songs began not as “an album” but as a survival mechanism. We talk about what it means to write from that place of raw honesty, to resist tying everything up with a pretty bow, and to allow music to carry both grief and gratitude at the same time.
We close by talking about David Crosby and Becca’s time in the Lighthouse Band with Michael League and Michelle Willis. Becca shares what it was like to work with him so late in his life, to feel both the shock of his passing and the sense that his voice is still very much present in her writing now. As a lifelong Crosby fan, I share my own experience of grieving someone I never met but felt incredibly connected to through his music—and how, watching those performances with the Lighthouse Band, it always looked to me like all the roads in his career led to that chapter.
This is a conversation about artistry, parenthood, grief, joy, and the choice to follow authenticity over marketability—even when the “long, slow simmer” is the more challenging road. I’m so grateful Becca was willing to go this deep with me, and I can’t wait for you to hear it.
To stay in touch with Becca, visit her website.
Music from the Episode:
Be Still (Becca Stevens)
Reminder (Becca Stevens & the Attaca Quartet)
Cogs in Cogs, Part II - Song (Becca Stevens & Brad Mehldau)
Maple to Paper (Becca Stevens)
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In this episode, I sit down with drummer Jordan Perlson for a deep dive into collaboration, sound, and how we listen to music in 2025. I’ve admired Jordan’s playing for a long time, especially with Becca Stevens, and it was a joy to finally talk with him about his journey and how he thinks about music.
We start with how he first connected with Becca Stevens and her band in New York, and what it means to show up as a collaborator while still protecting your own musical “mission statement.” Jordan talks about the tension between being a supportive hired gun and staying true to his instincts – and how, as he gets older, it’s harder to ignore that inner compass.
Jordan shares some of the drummers who have shaped his ears over the years, from John Bonham and Will Calhoun to Bill Stewart and Jay Bellerose – and why the “magic” of certain players only grows with time. We get into Bellerose’s multi-percussionist approach to the drum set, compensating for supposed “weaknesses,” and how those limitations can actually lead to a more unique sound.
From there, we talk about Jordan’s move from New York to Nashville in 2016: what he was (and wasn’t) seeing in 10-year-old versions of himself on the New York scene, and why he decided to build a life in a place where quality of life and long-term sustainability felt more achievable. I loved hearing how his “wide net” hustle in New York evolved into a more focused, intentional approach in Nashville, where his priority list was: Jeff Coffin, Victor Krauss, Adrian Belew – and then figuring out how to be musically meaningful to them.
Jordan also shares beautiful stories from touring with Adrian Belew, including Adrian’s fearlessness as a guitarist, singer, and composer, and what it’s like to sit inside that kind of energy every night.
We spend a good chunk of time talking about how we listen to music now versus how we listened when we grew up. Jordan reflects on the difference between buying a record or cassette for one song and then slowly falling in love with the deep cuts, versus today’s playlist culture, where it’s easy to skip anything that doesn’t hit instantly. We compare notes on hearing albums at 14 versus revisiting them in our late 40s, and how our relationship with certain songs completely changes over time.
Later in the episode, we get into:
Jordan is thoughtful, honest, and funny, and this conversation felt like hanging out with a friend who happens to be one of the most musical drummers on the planet. I had a great time talking with him, and I think you’ll really enjoy hearing how he sees the instrument, the industry, and the future of making records.
To learn more about Jordan, please visit his website.
Music from the Episode:
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Thank you for listening. If you have questions, feedback, or ideas for the show, please email me at [email protected].