RealPharma: Conversations with Pharma Pathfinders
RealPharma: Conversations with Pharma Pathfinders

RealPharma: Conversations with Pharma Pathfinders

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For biopharma pros seeking insightful discussions and a deeper understanding of the pharma world, join Dr. Na-Ri Oh and Ian Wendt as they talk with industry leaders and luminaries to delve into biotechnology, pharmaceuticals, and healthcare. RealPharma podcast aims to challenge your viewpoints, deepen your understanding of the pharma world beyond the headlines, and explore emerging trends in medical innovation.

Recent Episodes

The Opioid Reckoning (Part 1): Paul Farrell Jr.
MAR 2, 2026
The Opioid Reckoning (Part 1): Paul Farrell Jr.
The Opioid Reckoning (Part 1): Paul Farrell Jr. on Litigation, Accountability, and the System That Failed West Virginia has had the highest drug overdose death rate in the United States for over a decade. In a state with fewer than 2 million people, 780 million prescription opioids were distributed in just six years. For Paul Farrell Jr., a Huntington, West Virginia native and mass tort attorney, those numbers weren’t abstract statistics. They were neighbors. Friends. Family members. In Part 1 of this two-part episode, hosts Na-Ri Oh and Ian Wendt sit down with Paul to unpack how the largest civil litigation in American history — the opioid multidistrict litigation (MDL 2804) — came together, and how it reshaped the conversation around corporate accountability in the pharmaceutical supply chain. This is not just a legal story. It’s a story about systems failure — across manufacturers, distributors, regulators, policymakers, and healthcare stakeholders — and what happens when transparency finally forces a reckoning. In This Episode Growing up in Huntington, WV as the opioid crisis escalated The investigative journalism that exposed 780 million pills — and the moment Paul decided to act What “public nuisance” law is — and why it became the legal breakthrough strategy The role of distributors as the “choke point” in the opioid supply chain How 3,000+ cases consolidated into the largest MDL in U.S. history Why abatement — not just financial damages — became central to the settlement strategy Internal company communications that revealed troubling attitudes toward affected communities The intersection of regulation, enforcement, and corporate responsibility How transparency and subpoena power changed the trajectory of the crisis Why This Conversation Matters For those working in pharma, healthcare, commercialization, policy, compliance, or distribution, this episode challenges us to examine difficult questions: Where does responsibility truly lie in a complex healthcare ecosystem? What happens when financial incentives distort oversight? And how do we prevent the next Pandora’s box from opening? This episode sets the foundation for a deeper conversation about accountability, culture, regulation, and reform. Coming Next Week: Part 2 There was simply too much to cover in one episode. In Part 2, we’ll explore: The evolution of the litigation and key tipping points The role of state attorneys general and settlement frameworks The ongoing PBM litigation The documentary The Bitter Pill And what lasting change should look like for the industry Make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss it.
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63 MIN
Ending The Diagnostic Odyssey with Josh Resnikoff
FEB 17, 2026
Ending The Diagnostic Odyssey with Josh Resnikoff
Ending the Diagnostic Odyssey: Rare Disease, Employers & Reimagining Health Plans Hosts: Na-Ri Oh & Ian WendtGuest: Joshua Resnikoff, Founder & CEO, Sunstone Health Episode Overview What if the biggest innovation in rare disease wasn’t a new drug—but a new way to navigate the system? In this episode, Na-Ri and Ian sit down with Joshua Resnikoff, biomedical engineer turned founder of Sunstone Health, to explore how employers can fundamentally rethink healthcare spending—while dramatically improving outcomes for families facing rare diseases. Josh’s journey into healthcare reform wasn’t academic—it was personal. After years navigating the healthcare system to diagnose his son’s rare periodic fever syndrome, Josh experienced firsthand the emotional, financial, and systemic toll of what’s known as the diagnostic odyssey. That experience sparked a mission: compress a seven-year diagnostic journey into just 12 weeks. This conversation dives into rare disease, employer-sponsored health plans, insurance mechanics, and why aligning incentives might be the key to transforming care. 🔬 From Scientist to System Builder Josh’s background as a biomedical engineer at Harvard’s Wyss Institute The rare disease journey that reshaped his career Why getting a diagnosis—even without treatment—changes everything The emotional and economic cost of delayed diagnosis 🧬 The 7-Year Diagnostic Odyssey On average, it takes: 7 years from first symptom to effective treatment for rare disease patients Countless ER visits, specialist referrals, medication trials, and escalating costs Significant emotional strain—rare disease families face dramatically higher stress and divorce rates Sunstone’s model reduces that timeline to approximately 12 weeks using: Whole genome sequencing AI-powered clinical interpretation Expert clinician review (human-in-the-loop model) Direct coordination with local care teams The result?Earlier intervention. Reduced healthcare utilization. Better outcomes. 💼 Why Employers Are the Key Josh explains why self-funded employers—not traditional commercial insurers—are uniquely positioned to drive change. Key insights: ~2/3 of Americans receive insurance through employers Many large employers are self-funded, meaning they pay claims directly Employers think in long-term employee retention (not 12-month insurance cycles) Better healthcare = healthier employees = higher retention & productivity Sunstone’s innovative model: No per-employee-per-month subscription fees Employers only pay when a family receives actionable results High ROI through reduced ER visits, unnecessary treatments, and delayed care 🛡 Insurance 101 (Made Understandable) The episode breaks down: Fully insured vs. self-funded plans Third-party administrators (TPAs) Stop-loss / reinsurance How high-cost cases (like $2M gene therapies) are financially managed The takeaway:When diagnoses happen earlier, total system costs often decrease—even when advanced therapies are involved. 🤝 Mission-Driven Innovation A powerful theme throughout the conversation: Many leaders in the rare disease ecosystem—including Josh—entered the field because of their own children. That lived experience shapes: Sunstone’s patient-first data ownership model Continuous reanalysis of patient data Clinical trial matching Ethical alignment with families As Josh says: “Even if this whole thing went belly up, we will have helped hundreds of families—and I’d feel good about that for the rest of my life.” 🚀 Recent Milestones Successfully raised Series A funding 800+ community investors via WeFunder Integration with Broad Clinical Labs Expanded epilepsy and autism-focused programs Rapidly growing employer pipeline 🔗 Learn More 🌐 Sunstone Health: https://sunstonehealth.com 💼 Connect with Josh on LinkedIn
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58 MIN
Beyond Survival: Why Empathy Is the Missing Prescription in Pharma with Matthew Zachary
JAN 26, 2026
Beyond Survival: Why Empathy Is the Missing Prescription in Pharma with Matthew Zachary
  🎙️ Beyond Survival: Why Empathy Is the Missing Prescription in Pharma Episode Summary: In this no-holds-barred conversation, Na-Ri Oh and Ian Wendt sit down with Matthew Zachary—brain cancer survivor, founder of Stupid Cancer, host of Out of Patients, and a relentless disruptor in patient advocacy. At 21, Matthew was diagnosed with brain cancer and faced a life-altering decision: take chemotherapy and lose his identity as a musician, or reject treatment and risk everything. That decision became the first of many moments where he saw the cracks in the healthcare system—specifically, the glaring absence of empathy. Now, nearly three decades later, Matthew shares how his experience transformed into a mission to fix what’s broken: in pharma, in media, in patient engagement—and in how we talk about what matters most. This isn’t your typical Pharma Podcast. It’s a masterclass in calling out BS, rethinking metrics that matter, and re-centering real human lives in healthcare strategy. What You’ll Hear in This Episode: 🎹 The life-defining decision Matthew made at 21—and why he turned down chemo 💊 How a lack of empathy almost cost him everything 🧠 The problem with patient engagement that’s all talk and no trust 🎤 The rise of Stupid Cancer and the “Howard Stern of Healthcare” era 📺 Why DTC ads may be a $28 billion distraction 🧵 The missing link between pharma marketers and patient communities 🔥 How compliance is killing creativity—and what to do about it 🗳️ Why Matthew is building a voter movement out of patient voices Memorable Quote: “If there is no empathy, there is no conversation.” – Matthew Zachary Mentioned in the Episode: Stupid Cancer Out of Patients Podcast Matthew’s upcoming book: We the Patients: How to Understand, Navigate, and Survive America’s Healthcare Nightmare WeThePatients.org Guest: Matthew Zachary (@MatthewZachary)   Let me know if you'd like a shorter version for Spotify/Apple Podcast platforms or suggested social media captions to promote the episode.
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59 MIN
Breaking the Silence: Why Pharma Needs to Speak Up with Brian Reid
JAN 12, 2026
Breaking the Silence: Why Pharma Needs to Speak Up with Brian Reid
  🎙️ Real Pharma – Episode Title: Breaking the Silence: Why Pharma Needs to Speak UpHosts: Na-Ri Oh & Ian WendtGuest: Brian Reid, Founder & Principal at Reid Strategic 🔍 Episode Summary: In this episode of Real Pharma, Na-Ri and Ian sit down with Brian Reid—a healthcare communicator, strategist, and former journalist who's worked across government, pharma, and media—to explore a provocative question: Why is the pharmaceutical industry so quiet when it comes to telling its own story? Together, they unpack the communication failures shaping drug pricing, PBMs, the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), biosimilars, and the broader healthcare system. Brian argues that the problem isn’t a lack of data or platforms—it’s a lack of courage, clarity, and commitment to narrative. From the importance of speaking up in a noisy media environment to the myth of reputational risk, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone in life sciences, policy, or healthcare storytelling. 🧠 What You’ll Learn: Why pharma’s “default to silence” is damaging public trust—and what the industry can do instead The communications trap around complex topics like PBMs, pricing, and benefit design How public perception problems could have been avoided with smarter storytelling (hello, Hep C) Why simplicity is power—and how “pharm-to-table” and Mark Cuban are reframing the narrative The case for overcommunication in the face of misinformation and AI-driven “slop” Why the Medicare Prescription Payment Plan was a missed communication opportunity—and how to fix it 🔊 Quotable Moments: “We're in a 30-year experiment of what happens when pharma steps back from the policy debate—and the results are in.” – Brian Reid “I just want pharma to beat Bigfoot in public trust. That’s my goal.” – Brian Reid “When in doubt, just shout. Say something. Do something.” – Na-Ri Oh “It’s not always about having the perfect message—it’s about showing up and making the case.” – Ian Wendt 🧭 Resources Mentioned: Cost Curve – Brian Reid’s daily newsletter on healthcare policy: ReidStrategic.com KFF’s piece on complexity as a barrier to affordability Examples from Mark Cuban’s Cost Plus Drugs and Eli Lilly CEO Dave Ricks’ public podcast appearances 👥 Connect with Brian Reid: 💼 Website: ReidStrategic.com 📬 Newsletter: Cost Curve 💬 LinkedIn: Brian Reid  
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52 MIN
Formulation as Strategy: Why CDMOs Matter More Than Ever
DEC 15, 2025
Formulation as Strategy: Why CDMOs Matter More Than Ever
Episode Title: Formulation as Strategy: Why CDMOs Matter More Than EverGuest: Elizabeth Hickman, President & CEO, Austin Pharmaceutics Episode Overview In this episode of RealPharma, hosts Nari Oh and Ian Wendt sit down with Elizabeth Hickman, President and CEO of Austin Pharmaceutics, to unpack one of the most critical—and often misunderstood—elements of drug development: formulation and the evolving role of CDMOs. As drug molecules become more complex and solubility challenges grow, CDMOs are no longer just manufacturing vendors. They are strategic partners helping biotech and pharma companies bridge the gap between discovery and commercialization. Elizabeth shares her journey from commercial pharma leadership to running a science-driven CDMO, and explains why formulation decisions made early can determine whether a promising molecule ever reaches patients. 🔍 Key Topics Covered The expanding role of CDMOsWhy CDMOs are shifting from executional partners to strategic extensions of pharma and biotech teams. Why formulation is make-or-breakHow solubility and bioavailability challenges derail up to 80% of modern drug candidates—and why these issues must be addressed early. From “undruggable” to developableHow AI-driven discovery and structure-based drug design are unlocking new targets while creating new development hurdles. Inside Austin Pharmaceuticals’ approachA look at Austin’s proprietary Kinetisol® technology and how amorphous solid dispersion can improve bioavailability, scalability, manufacturability, and sustainability. Small biotech vs. big pharma dynamicsWhat early-stage companies should look for in a CDMO partner—and the most common mistakes teams make when selecting one. Patient impact starts with formulationHow pill burden, dosing frequency, and manufacturability directly affect adherence, cost, and competitiveness. The future of CDMOsReshoring, cost pressures, AI adoption, and the growing need for talent with both scientific depth and entrepreneurial mindset. 💡 Memorable Takeaways “Formulation is where promising molecules either become viable drugs—or stall out.” Solving in-vivo performance alone isn’t enough; scalability and manufacturability must be designed in from day one. The best CDMO relationships are built on transparency, urgency, and shared long-term vision. Advanced formulation isn’t just a technical advantage—it’s a competitive and economic one. 👤 About the Guest Elizabeth Hickman is President and CEO of Austin Pharmaceutics, a U.S.-based early-phase CDMO specializing in formulation development for challenging small-molecule drugs. With a background spanning commercial strategy, drug launches, and executive leadership, Elizabeth brings a sponsor-centric mindset to CDMO partnerships—helping clients accelerate innovation while reducing risk.
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45 MIN