Primary Technology

Stephen Robles and Jason Aten

Details

Award-winning podcast covering tech news that matters for everyone to understand. Our hosts break down the most important stories from consumer tech and gadgets, to AI and beyond. Stephen Robles is a content creator with over 450K followers across platforms, and Jason Aten is a technology columnist at Inc.com having written in the past for Business Insider and The Chicago Tribune. Tune in every Thursday for new episodes.

Recent Episodes

OCT 15, 2026
Who is HomeView For? Apple’s Fight for the Smart Home, Anthropic Thinks Claude Has Feelings
Apple made its foray back in the smart home with the new HomeView device, Apple TV 4K, HomePod mini 2, and Home Collection devices. We debate who will benefit from the HomeView, have a theory about Siri AI and Apple TV, plus try to make sure we all understand Claude isn’t alive. Vote for Our Signal Awards! Best Co-Host Team Listener's Choice Technology Shows Our Apps Element Photo App Kan Do Task App Contextly Notes All Stephen's Apps Our Links Top Five Tech | Stephen’s Podcast Creative Effort | Jason's Podcast Watch on YouTube! Show Notes via Email Email Us: [email protected] @stephenrobles on Threads @jasonaten on Threads Sponsors: Ramp - Stop guessing where your AI spend is going. Get started with Ramp with two hundred and fifty dollars off at: ramp.com/primary SerpAPI - Visit serpapi.com/primarytech and receive an extra 250 searches FREE. That is 500 free searches in your first month! OriginHQ - Origin is endpoint AI observability. See what a trace looks like at: originhq.com/primarytechnology Links from the show Stephen's Apple Home Event Recap Video Anthropic Just Banned Being Cruel to Claude – The Reason Should Concern Us All - Inc. (01:12:26) McSnake App - App Store Welcome Apple HomeView: Designed for life at home - YouTube Apple HomeView - Apple Apple Event: HomePod surround, HomeView, and Apple TV - YouTube All features of Apple's new HomeView - YouTube Third-party HomeView apps? Think CarPlay – Six Colors Apple TV 4K - Apple Siri Remote - Apple Apple announces the next generation of HomePod mini - Apple Will the Full-Sized HomePod Get Siri AI? Apple's Website Offers a Clue - MacRumors Latest HomePods can output Mac system audio - AppleInsider Introducing Apple Home Collection, a new lineup of smart home accessories - Apple LG Floodlight Cam - Apple Here’s how much iPhone Duo costs to repair out-of-warranty - 9to5Mac 2026 Usage Policy update – Anthropic X post from OpenAI Newsroom Meta has some Wonder Full new AI models | The Verge Google finally releases Gemini 4 Argon | The Verge YouTube sticks new labels on AI-generated songs | The Verge It Turns Out the Only Thing People Like Less Than AI Is Paying for Adobe Creative Cloud - Inc. (01:27:29) GitHub - boykopovar/AnyPS5: Tool for automatic PS5 executables Netflix is laying off around 1,000 employees | The Verge Download LM Studio - Mac, Linux, Windows Oceans Battery Organizer Electric Lunch Box Food Warmer (00:00) - Intro (05:11) - HomeView Impressions (48:07) - Sponsor: Ramp (49:54) - Sponsor: SerpAPI (51:21) - Sponsor: Origin (52:55) - New Apple TV 4K (01:02:43) - HomePod mini 2 (01:06:15) - Apple Home Collection (01:11:32) - Claude Isn’t Alive (01:23:20) - Lightning Round (01:27:10) - Local LLMs ★ Support this podcast ★
104 MIN
OCT 8, 2026
Muse AI is Useful and Horrible, Apple Home Event, OpenAI Crossed a Line
Apple may be partnering with LG for new smart home accessories, Microsoft’s Surface Laptop Ultra reveal with “MagSafe” USB-C port, Muse AI in real use cases, OpenAI may be going too far with its models, and Stephen finally tries Tailscale. Vote for Our Show! Signal Awards: Best Co-Host Team Signal Awards: Technology Podcast Member Promo Code: IWANTCHAPTERS (Click above and the $2.50 promo will be auto applied!) Our Apps Element Photo App Kan Do Task App Contextly Notes Stephen's Free Apps Our Links Top Five Tech | Stephen’s Podcast Creative Effort | Jason's Podcast Watch on YouTube! Show Notes via Email Email Us: [email protected] @stephenrobles on Threads @jasonaten on Threads Sponsors: ElevenLabs - Get a demo today and hear what’s possible at elevenlabs.io/primary Framer - Start creating for free at framer.com/primary and get 30% off an annual Pro plan! CleanMyMac - Get Tidy Today! Try 7 days free and use my code PRIMARYTECH for 20% off at clnmy.com/PRIMARYTECH Links from the show Amazon's New Kindle Lineup for 2026 | About Amazon Amazon Kindle Bundle with Remote Apple’s new ‘second-party’ accessories for Home are bigger than we thought, per leak X post from pdfu: First look at home accessories Apple co-developed with LG Schlage Sense Pro Smart Lock Showdown - YouTube Apple TV 4K Rumored to Support Four HomePods for Surround Sound - MacRumors Microsoft finally confirms Surface Laptop Ultra pricing | Windows Central Microsoft is giving Copilot more control over Windows and your files | The Verge Jason on Action News- 6abc Philadelphia The Biggest Launch Since ChatGPT (Muse) - Cleo Abram AI Just Crossed the Terrifying Line - Now What? - YouTube OpenAI launches visual ads that appear alongside image generation results | TechCrunch OpenAI is adding text watermarking in ChatGPT and Codex | The Verge ChatGPT Gets GPT-6 and New Intelligent UI With Visual Answers - MacRumors OpenAI releases progress on more than 300 math research problems - The Washington Post Fired OpenAI Researchers Ask Company to Preserve Visibility Into AI Reasoning - WSJ Google's SynthID AI Detector is Now Available to Everyone - MacRumors SynthID Detector Apple Intelligence Comes With a Very Annoying Feature. How to Turn It Off | Inc. Paramount and Warner Bros. Discovery complete $110 billion media megamerger | The Verge Emmys will move from broadcast TV to Prime Video in 2027 | TechCrunch Disney Plus will stream Super Bowl LXI | The Verge Today Marks the 15th Anniversary of Steve Jobs' Death - MacRumors The Weirdest Part of Remembering Steve Jobs (00:00) - Intro (09:37) - New Kindles (13:40) - Apple Smart Home Products (25:46) - Microsoft Surface Event (32:34) - Sponsor: ElevenLabs (35:32) - Sponsor: Framer (37:11) - Sponsor: CleanMyMac (39:00) - Muse is Useful and Horrible (01:02:30) - ChatGPT Crossed a Line (01:10:44) - Google SynthID Tool (01:12:33) - Annoying Siri Bubble (01:19:29) - Streaming News (01:21:18) - Stephen Tried Tailscale (01:28:29) - Steve Jobs and Founder CEOs ★ Support this podcast ★
97 MIN
OCT 1, 2026
Apple HomePad Imminent, OpenAI Dots Explained, AI Safety Charade
Apple's smart home hub may arrive October 13 with an iMac G4-inspired design, tech leaders outline AI self-policing under new accords, OpenAI introduces its new Dots AI agents, plus an mini app-recommendation lightning round! Member Promo Code: IWANTCHAPTERS (Click above and the $2.50 promo will be auto applied!) Our Apps Element Photo App Kan Do Task App Contextly Notes Our Links Top Five Tech | Stephen’s Podcast Creative Effort | Jason's Podcast Watch on YouTube! Show Notes via Email Email Us: [email protected] @stephenrobles on Threads @jasonaten on Threads Sponsors: OriginHQ - Origin is endpoint AI observability. See what a trace looks like at: originhq.com/primarytechnology Links from the show Swap Audio Track on Video Shortcut Transcribe Multiple Videos Shortcut The AI Industry Has a Jurassic Park Problem - Inc. Meta's Strategy to Get You to Use Muse Is to Lie About Your Friends - Inc. (21:31) Get in losers, we're ditching Raycast - YouTube You Can 'Get Ready' for iPhone Duo Pre-Orders on October 12 - MacRumors Apple's HomePad smart home hub launching on Oct 13 with iMac G4 design – Bloomberg - 9to5Mac Ron Johnson on Letting the Best Ideas Win - Creative Effort - Apple Podcasts (15:33) YouTuber Says Muse Gave His Address to a Marketplace Buyer - Business Insider Mark Zuckerberg on Muse, Audio-Only Glasses and Killer AI - YouTube Here’s how tech leaders will self-police AI safety under Trump’s deal | The Verge OpenAI Pauses Training Its Most Powerful Models After Rogue Agents Target Government | WIRED The Ezra Klein Show: Bill Gates - The New York Times DevDay 2026 Recap | OpenAI Introducing dots | OpenAI Introducing Gemini 4 Argon Paramount Co-CEO DoorDash launches an AI agent you can text to order food | TechCrunch Halide 3.2: The App for Aperture Amazon’s delivery driver smart glasses will reportedly take photos ‘almost constantly’ | The Verge Daring Fireball: Anthropic's IPO Prospectus Is a Fucking Doozy Shortcuts Menu — Your Shortcuts in the Mac menu bar ‎Hidden Bar App - App Store ‎Hand Mirror App - App Store Noodlesoft – Simply Useful Software ‎Dropzone 4 App - App Store Hyperkey Tailscale | Secure Connectivity for AI, IoT and Multi-Cloud Buy the Alfred Powerpack Final Thoughts on Apple Watch Series 12 Battery Life Sound Devices USBPre 2 USB-B Audio Interface USBPRE 2 B&H Photo (00:00) - Intro (06:47) - iPhone Duo Pre Pre-Order (10:16) - HomePad Coming Soon (15:22) - Jason Covering Muse AI (37:30) - Sponsor: Origin (39:31) - AI Self-Regulation (52:12) - ChatGPT Dev Day (01:07:27) - Lightning Round (01:17:55) - Personal Tech: Apps ★ Support this podcast ★
95 MIN
SEP 24, 2026
1 Week Review of iPhone 18 Pro, Muse AI May Read Your Texts, Siri AI IRL
We review both the M6 and M5 Pro Mac mini along with our week review of iPhone 18 Pro, Jason discovers Meta's Muse AI was reading his texts without permission, Siri AI with apps is a mixed bag, and more. Member Promo Code: IWANTCHAPTERS (Click above and the $2.50 promo will be auto applied!) Our Apps Element Photo App Kan Do Task App Contextly Notes Our Links Top Five Tech | Stephen’s Podcast Creative Effort | Jason's Podcast Watch on YouTube! Show Notes via Email Email Us: [email protected] @stephenrobles on Threads @jasonaten on Threads Sponsors: OriginHQ - Origin is endpoint AI observability. See what a trace looks like at: originhq.com/primarytechnology Claude AI - Ready to tackle bigger problems? Sign up for Claude todayat: claude.ai/primary Copilot Money - Limited-time: Get 2 months FREE when you sign up at: try.copilot.money/primary Links from the show Stephen's Woz Shirt - Threads M6 Mac mini has my Mac Studio sweating - YouTube Jason's M5 Pro Mac mini Review The M5 Ultra Mac Studio tears through our benchmark tests | The Verge Stephen's iPhone 18 Pro Review - YouTube iPhone 18 Pro Camera Review: Dunton, Colorado — Austin Mann AT&T seemingly has no plans to support Apple’s new iPhone Handoff feature - 9to5Mac The Most Hidden iOS 27 Features - YouTube Apple Watch Series 12 Ceramic - YouTube Meta’s New Muse AI Agent Read My Private Messages. I Never Asked It To - Inc. (45:01) Meta Threads post from Jason Aten Meta Keeps Apologizing for Muse. Its Explanations Miss the Point Entirely - Inc. Meta’s Muse is creepy, but maybe not for the reasons you think | The Verge Daring Fireball: Meta’s New Muse AI Agent Read Jason Aten's Messages Database Meta Connect 2026: The 7 biggest announcements | The Verge OpenAI launches GPT-6 Sol and Luna, boasting lower cost and fewer mistakes | TechCrunch Anthropic launches Claude Opus 5.5 with stricter safeguards for cybersecurity | The Verge Daring Fireball: The iPhone 4 ‘Antennagate’ Press Conference Q&A — Finally Premium Video - Apple Podcasts for Creators Made On YouTube | Innovation for the YouTube Era New features for the YouTube Era: Made on YouTube 2026 - YouTube Community Disney+ and Hulu Raise Prices Again, Ad-Free Plans Now $21.49 - MacRumors 18 Apps that "Work" with Siri AI Right Now - YouTube What’s Really Happening with Siri AI and Apps - Apple Podcasts (01:14:26) Mastodon post from Ryan Ashcraft Siri AI Coming to HomePod - MacRumors (00:00) - Intro (03:53) - Apple Care Family Update (07:20) - M6 Mac mini Review (17:47) - iPhone 18 Pro Review (29:14) - Screen Time Debacle (37:27) - Sponsor: Claude (40:14) - Sponsor: Copilot Money (41:36) - Sponsor: OriginHQ (43:35) - Muse AI Read Jason's Texts (01:01:12) - Meta Connect (01:05:31) - Lightning Round (01:14:08) - Siri AI IRL ★ Support this podcast ★
88 MIN