Send us Fan MailHe went to Wharton. He worked at Goldman Sachs. He was worth $35 million.Then the 2008 crash took everything, and his bank told him to intentionally destroy his own credit before they'd even talk to him.In this episode of The Grateful Podcast, Jack sits down with Stefan Whitwell – investment banker turned financial advisor, Zen monastery resident, and father of four — to talk about what happens when the life you built collapses overnight.Stefan shares the moment he couldn't afford his daughter's summer camp, the mentor who asked the most irrational question he'd ever heard, why he tells his kids "I hope you fail," and what living in a Japanese Zen monastery at 20 years old (as the second foreigner in 600 years)taught him about leading from the heart.This conversation will change how you think about failure, resilience, and what real wealth actually means.Chapters:00:00 — Worth $35 Million, Then Lost It All00:54 — "I Couldn't Even Buy a Refrigerator"01:59 — Identity Crisis: When the Phone Goes Cold03:08 — The People Who Disappeared04:58 — The Moment He Couldn't Say Yes to His Daughter05:20 — The Bike Analogy: How to Talk to Your Kids About Failure07:26 — Kids Know When You're Faking It09:37 — Why Leading From Your Head Only Gets You So Far10:55 — Rock Bottom: Shutting Down His Heart12:45 — What Does a Heart-Led Life Actually Look Like?14:29 — Trust Is Built by Listening, Not Pitching16:40 — You Have to Feel It, Not Just Think It18:32 — Did Losing Everything Make Him More Human?20:10 — The System Crushed Good People in 200821:43 — The Bank Told Him to Destroy His Own Credit24:46 — Grace for Others, High Standards for Yourself26:00 — The Mentor's Question That Changed His Life29:15 — [SPONSOR] Magic Mind30:14 — How He Turned Pain Into Purpose31:45 — "Would You Do It Again?" — His Honest Answer33:52 — How Losing Everything Changed How He Raises His Kids36:29 — "I Haven't Fallen Once." "I'm Sorry."39:51 — What High Quality Failure Looks Like41:50 — Ray Dalio's Principles and Learning From Mistakes43:42 — Dropping Out of Wharton to Study With Zen Monks46:49 — The Interview With a Zen Master (That Made No Sense)47:47 — Second Foreigner in 600 Years51:03 — The Soy Sauce Incident53:30 — The Monk Who Couldn't Talk Him Out of It56:57 — The Kamikaze Painting: A Story of Forgiveness59:29 — What Stefan Is Grateful For🔗 Connect with Stefan Whitwell:► Website: https://whitwelladvisors.com► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/whitwell/► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stefanwhitwell/🧠 More from Jack:► Website: https://jackwagoner.co► Free Resonance Protocol: https://jackwagoner.co/download► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jack_wagoner_/► 1:1 Coaching: [email protected]📺 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Jack_Wagoner💬 If this conversation moved you, send it to someone who's going through a hard chapter right now. 🙏Subscribe for more deep conversations with thinkers, seekers, and soulful creators. ⸻🎙️ About Jack:I’m an 19-year-old college student with a big dream: to show the world that you can be grateful and ambitious at the same time. Through The Grateful Podcast, I explore what it means tThe Fresh Patch Podcast - Where Good Pets Get It. Welcome to the Fresh Patch Podcast where we talk about everything, from dog...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Support the show