<p>Rob talks to Senator Martin Heinrich about whether Republicans and Democrats will reach a permitting reform deal this year. They chat about what Democrats would need to see in such a deal, how it could help transmission projects, and why such a deal will ultimately need to constrain President Trump in some way.</p><p>They also discuss the future of Democratic energy and climate policy — what Heinrich learned from the Biden administration, what the Inflation Reduction Act got right (and wrong), and why data centers are becoming a new kind of energy villain.</p><p>Heinrich is the senior senator from New Mexico (and a well-known transmission policy nerd). He’s also a trained mechanical engineer and the son of a utility lineman. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University. Jesse is off this week.</p><p>You can find the full transcript of this episode <a href="https://heatmap.news/podcast/shift-key-s3-e26-martin-heinrich-transcript" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">here</a>.</p><p><strong>Mentioned:</strong></p><p><a href="https://heatmap.news/economy/sunzia" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>SunZia: The Untold Saga of America's Biggest Power Line</u></a>, by Robinson Meyer</p><p>The FREEDOM Act:&nbsp;<a href="https://heatmap.news/politics/freedom-act" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>New Bipartisan House Bill Would Keep President From Yanking Permits</u></a></p><p>--</p><p>This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by ...</p><p>Accelerate your clean energy career with&nbsp;<strong>Yale’s online certificate programs</strong>. Explore the 10-month Financing and Deploying Clean Energy program or the 5-month Clean and Equitable Energy Development program. Use referral code&nbsp;<strong>HeatMap26</strong>&nbsp;and get your application in by the priority deadline for $500 off tuition to one of Yale’s online certificate programs in clean energy. Learn more at<a href="https://cbey.yale.edu/online-learning-opportunities" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><u>&nbsp;cbey.yale.edu/online-learning-opportunities</u></a>.</p><p>Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>