The Deep End With Lecrae

Description In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with world-renowned Bible teacher, author, and activist Christine Caine. Christine opens up about her powerful journey from being an "unnamed" child in Australia to leading a global movement against human trafficking. She dives deep into the reality of childhood trauma, the shocking discovery of her adoption at age 33, and how she learned to "rewire" her brain through the Word of God. Whether you are struggling with a "mother wound," navigating disappointment in church leadership, or feeling like you're in your own "Hell Week," this conversation offers a roadmap for moving from survival to a life of true, supernatural flourishing. In this episode, we discuss: How to handle the "pain of recovery" after a life-altering injury or trauma. The difference between a "well-managed life" and a supernatural one. Why your history does not define your destiny. Practical wisdom for the next generation of leaders in a social media-driven world. Why the most fruitful decade of your life might still be ahead of you. Connect with Christine Caine A21 Campaign: a21.org — Learn how you can help abolish slavery everywhere, forever. Propel Women: Resources to help women activate their passion and purpose. New Book: The Faith to Flourish — Available now. Follow The Deep End Subscribe for more deep conversations on faith, leadership, and culture. CHAPTER MARKERS 00:00 Introduction to Christine Caine 02:38 History of Trauma and Resilience 03:33 Growing Up in a Greek Immigrant Home 05:15 The Discovery of Adoption 08:11 Unnamed Number 2508: A Crisis of Identity 09:23 Renewing the Mind through Scripture 11:48 From Numbers to People: The Mission of A21 13:35 Seeking the Biological Mother 15:16 "I Don't Want Any Trouble": A Mother's Voice 19:23 The Pain of Recovery vs. The Pain of Injury 21:42 Breaking Cultural and Family Expectations 27:29 Marriage and Shared Purpose with Nick Caine 34:51 The Wheel and the Oil: Balancing Life 37:17 Avoiding a Well-Managed Life without God 40:51 Having the Faith to Flourish 44:56 Justice Work and the Hope of Christ 52:43 Hell Week: The Choice to Keep Running 57:21 The Danger of Tapping Out at 60 59:42 Navigating Church Failure and Disappointment 01:03:57 Responding Out of Wisdom, Not Wounding 01:14:36 Advice for the Social Media Generation 01:17:03 Deep End Questions: Misconceptions and Prisons 01:23:24 Preparing for the Most Fruitful Decade 01:27:54 Legacy and Handing Over the Baton of Faith 01:31:53 Resources to Help Fight Human Trafficking _______________________________________________ 📱Follow our new instagram! - / deependlecr. . 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae 📮 Join the conversation… Exclusive previews, discounts, bonus content, and more:https://deependwithlecrae.com/ Stream the Album: / reconstruction 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/

What does it really take to survive marriage, ministry, fame, mental health battles, and faith... all at the same time? In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with gospel icons, actors, and comedians David Mann and Tamela Mann for one of the most raw and honest conversations we've ever had. They open up about their nearly 40-year marriage, childhood trauma, poverty, blended family challenges, public scrutiny, depression, suicidal thoughts, and the faith that held them together when everything else was falling apart. From dumpster-diving as teenagers to standing ovations with Tyler Perry, from silent suffering to healing through therapy and prayer. This is survival, grace, repentance, forgiveness, and love that refuses to quit. If you've ever wondered: – How strong marriages are actually built – What faith looks like in depression, not just success – How to support a spouse who is drowning silently – Why therapy and prayer are not enemies – Or how God redeems the most painful chapters This conversation is for you. _______________________________________________ Chapter Markers 00:00 – When success hides silent suffering 01:25 – Introducing David & Tamela Mann 03:59 – Authentic faith vs. church perfection 05:25 – How their friendship turned into marriage 07:58 – Singing together before fame 10:27 – Realizing adulthood and responsibility 14:23 – Falling in love through friendship 16:31 – Childhood trauma and broken homes 17:50 – Dumpster diving and survival 18:53 – Witnessing abuse and learning anger 21:03 – Choosing marriage when divorce felt easier 23:13 – The night the lights were shut off 26:24 – "The knock at the door" — discovering another child 30:02 – Choosing unity over jealousy 33:39 – Feeling alone inside marriage 37:08 – From Kirk Franklin to Tyler Perry 42:36 – When the worst career moment became the best 46:26 – Fame, generosity, and trauma behind the scenes 49:16 – Working together as husband and wife 55:03 – Depression, shame, and suicidal thoughts 58:11 – "Thousands watched me drown" 59:00 – A wife realizing she missed the warning signs 01:01:37 – Therapy, boundaries, and healing 01:04:29 – Faith that carries you through the night 01:06:19 – Music, success, and staying grounded 01:10:48 – Marriage as shared light, not competition 01:14:09 – What's next for David & Tamela 01:16:21 – Final words of hope and grace _______________________________________________ 📱Follow our new instagram! - / deependlecr. . 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae 📮 Join the conversation… Exclusive previews, discounts, bonus content, and more:https://deependwithlecrae.com/ Stream the Album: / reconstruction 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/

Go to https://meetfabric.com/LECRAE and apply today, risk-free. Get your wardrobe sorted and your gift list handled with Quince. Don't wait! Go to https://Quince.com/LECRAE for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. ____________________________________________ In this special episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with two of his closest friends and longtime collaborators — Trip Lee and Tedashii — for an honest, funny, and deeply reflective conversation about faith, friendship, calling, and the wild journey that brought them here. They rewind the tape on the early days of 116, talk about what it was really like building something that would later shape an entire movement, and reflect on what they didn't understand at the time — about leadership, influence, pressure, and God's timing. Along the way, they unpack: How none of this was part of a master plan — and why that matters The tension between calling and control What leadership looks like when you don't actually want to be "the leader" How God used imperfect people, imperfect theology, and imperfect moments to do something lasting Why the impact often becomes clear only in the rearview mirror There are serious moments. There are nostalgic moments. There are hilarious stories (including tour chaos, bad pranks, and arguments that started because everyone was tired and hungry). But underneath it all is a deeper question: What does it look like to stay faithful over decades — not just seasons? This episode isn't just about music. It's about friendship that lasts, calling that matures, and a faith that grows deeper as it gets tested by real life. Whether you've followed these guys since the early 116 days or you're meeting them for the first time, this conversation is a reminder that God rarely writes straight lines — but He does write meaningful stories. _______________________________ 📱Follow our new instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/deependlecrae/?locale=en_US%2Cen_US 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae 📮 Join the conversation… Exclusive previews, discounts, bonus content, and more: https://deependwithlecrae.com/ Stream the Album https://music.apple.com/us/album/reconstruction/1828052699 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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