By Their Side: Advocating for Children in Foster Care
By Their Side: Advocating for Children in Foster Care

By Their Side: Advocating for Children in Foster Care

Micaela Tracy

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Welcome to the By Their Side Podcast, where we explore the intricacies of foster care and child welfare advocacy through candid discussions with industry professionals and people with lived experience. Join your host, Micaela Tracy, as we delve into topics such as trauma, attachment, and effective advocacy strategies. Produced in collaboration with Voices for CASA Children, each episode offers invaluable insights and perspectives to empower and inform. Join us as we journey alongside those dedicated to making a difference in the lives of vulnerable children.

Recent Episodes

Occasional Angels with Foster Care Advocate David Ambroz
NOV 21, 2025
Occasional Angels with Foster Care Advocate David Ambroz
Welcome to By Their Side, everyone! This episode features an interview with David Ambroz, a national poverty and child welfare expert and the author of the bestselling memoir A Place Called Home: A Memoir! Ambroz shares his powerful personal story of growing up homeless and in the foster care system and how those experiences shaped his lifelong mission to help children and families break the cycle of poverty! David explains that for him, "home" as a child was simply wherever he and his family could find shelter at the time - a church basement, a bus stop, or the subway. He describes the trauma of entering the foster care system, where most of the homes he was placed in were not truly "homes" filled with love and safety. As he's gotten older, David has come to define home not by physical walls but rather by the people and mission that sustain him. Our conversation explores how the child welfare and foster care systems have improved over time, with more policies and programs to support vulnerable children. However, David highlights the fact that there is still much work to be done to address the root causes of childhood poverty and homelessness, and he passionately argues that as a society, we need to stop treating these issues as just statistics and start seeing them as a moral necessity that affects the lives of real children. David also shares some inspiring stories of the "occasional angels" - teachers, social workers, and foster parents who made a profound difference in his life, even via small acts of kindness. He stresses that everyone has the power to be an "occasional angel" and make a big impact, whether by becoming a CASA volunteer, hiring a foster youth intern, or simply having meaningful conversations about these issues. The interview closes with David's call to action - for all of us to get involved, get uncomfortable, and do more to end the intergenerational cycle of poverty and trauma. He believes that with collective passion and action, we can create a society in which every child has access to the resources and support they need to thrive! Highlights: [1:45] - Home wasn't a place for David but rather the people and purpose that he chose. [3:38] - David argues that it's important to celebrate progress in child advocacy while continuing the work that remains unfinished. [5:09] - David reminds us that all wins are important, even imperfect ones. ​​ [8:36] - David encourages people to show children the same passion we give sports and celebrities. [9:52] - David believes that communities tend to step up during visible crises, but we need to shift to collective responsibility. [10:58] - David asserts that we need to address immediate crises like hunger while also fixing the systemic causes that create them in the first place. [13:41] - What did it feel like for David, as a small child, to be suffering yet completely ignored? [14:19] - Hear how David learned early on that society ignored his suffering, revealing to him how little his life mattered to others. [16:54] - Everyday "occasional angels" doing small, compassionate acts can drastically impact a child's life! [19:48] - ​​How might David's life have been different if more people had simply helped in small ways? [20:18] - David points out how a consistent adult presence such as a CASA could have guided him and profoundly changed his life trajectory. [23:44] - Hear how a question from David's mother awakened the idea of choice and sparked his first real hope. [26:00] - Having someone show you options and hope can transform survival-focused minds toward seeing a better future. [27:25] - David describes forgiveness as a lifelong discipline that enabled him to survive unbearable circumstances. [30:49] - Illness, not moral failure, explains many troubling behaviors. [32:35] - David argues that people misunderstand foster care and ignore their duty to oversee its power. ​​ [34:33] - David reiterates that kids living in foster care aren't broken and argues that we need to stop judging struggling families and workers. [37:08] - David feels that kids living in foster care aren't broken. [39:58] - The foster-friendly workplace certification encourages employers to support foster parents, and doing nothing is unacceptable. [41:22] - Don't wait for perfect conditions; show up with heart, take action, and always do more! [43:49] - Where can David be reached online? [44:56] - David expresses gratitude toward adults who helped him, but ending child poverty requires all of us to act. Links & Resources: David's Website David's Instagram Page David's Threads Page David Ambroz - A Place Called Home: A Memoir Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this episode are those of the guests and host and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Voices for CASA Children or its affiliates. Content Warning: This episode may include discussions of sensitive topics that could be triggering for some listeners.
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47 MIN
Unpacking the Scary Stuff with Jessica Sinarski, LPCMH
OCT 31, 2025
Unpacking the Scary Stuff with Jessica Sinarski, LPCMH
I am joined in this episode by Jessica Sinarski, a licensed professional counselor, author, and founder of BraveBrains. Jessica discusses her book What's Inside Your Backpack? which explores how caring adults can help children who have experienced trauma to feel safe, seen, and supported. Throughout the story, her book aims to convey that children are not alone in carrying the "heavy backpacks" of their trauma and that there are ways to find support and face those difficult emotions in empowering ways. Together, we discuss how adults (such as parents, teachers, and CASA volunteers) can approach supporting children who are dealing with big, scary emotions. Jessica highlights the importance of acknowledging the child's grief and pain rather than trying to fix the situation, and she suggests using shared language and metaphors from the book such as "bookmarking" difficult feelings in order to help children feel understood. Jessica highlights the need for adults to also process their own emotions and triggers so that they can show up fully for the children whom they support without projecting their own baggage, and she shares how having a community of trusted peers has been invaluable for her own self-care. Our conversation ultimately emphasizes the power of creating safe spaces for children to feel seen and heard! Highlights: [2:11] - Hear how Jessica unexpectedly found her passion in foster care work, inspiring her to write What's Inside Your Backpack? [4:00] - Jessica illustrates how healing from trauma involves support, self-compassion, and gradual progress. [6:49] - The book offers a powerful message that sharing emotional burdens makes them lighter and creates hope. [8:04] - Jessica hopes that her book helps adults take on difficult conversations with children via empathy and shared storytelling. [11:11] - What's Inside Your Backpack? offers shared language and tools for adults and kids to face emotions together. [12:38] - Kids need empathy, not fixing, while adults need to manage their own emotional triggers. [15:57] - Parenting traumatized children requires not being judgmental of how they grieve and cope. [18:51] - Before encouraging kids to lower their defenses, it's important to first ensure emotional safety. [20:14] - Trauma survivors need to learn when and where it's safe to relax their guard. [22:49] - Jessica highlights the value of helping kids build lasting trust with safe adults. [24:13] - Jessica suggests modeling emotional regulation aloud in order to normalize feelings. [26:45] - Listen as Jessica encourages processing emotions with adults, not kids, and sharing only age-appropriate honesty. [30:53] - Modeling emotions' beginnings and endings teaches kids that emotions are temporary and safe. [32:39] - Jessica expresses hope in child welfare increasingly embracing lived experience. [35:13] - Healing requires supportive friends who can meet emotional needs. [38:25] - Jessica explains that validation, not solutions, best comforts both adults and children during tough emotions. [41:12] - Find out where to connect with Jessica. Links & Resources: Jessica's Website BraveBrains Jessica's LinkedIn Page Jessica Sinarski - What's Inside Your Backpack? Jessica's Books Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this episode are those of the guests and host and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Voices for CASA Children or its affiliates. Content Warning: This episode may include discussions of sensitive topics that could be triggering for some listeners.
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Beyond Foster Care with Army Veteran, Tristian Smith
OCT 17, 2025
Beyond Foster Care with Army Veteran, Tristian Smith
Welcome back to the show, dear listeners! I am joined in this episode by Tristian Smith, former Army officer, author, and Nebraska CASA volunteer who grew up in the foster care system living in nearly 30 different homes from ages 8 to 18. After experiencing abuse and instability in the system, Tristian went on to graduate college, serve in the military, and now advocates for children in foster care via his volunteer work. Throughout our conversation, Tristian shares his personal story - how he was placed in foster care after his mother passed away and how he and his brother were abused by their uncle. He describes the lack of consistency and support that he faced, with frequent school and home changes and feeling "invisible" in the system. Tristian highlights the importance of having caring adult mentors, noting that if he had a CASA volunteer early on, he likely would have been removed from his uncle's home much sooner. Listen as Tristian credits a few key mentors he met as a young adult in college for helping him develop the resilience and drive to achieve his goals, including graduating, joining the military, and eventually writing a book about his experiences. He stresses the need for foster parents to provide more than just the basics but also true care, compassion and communication. As a CASA volunteer, Tristian is now dedicated to being that consistent, supportive adult whom he wished he had growing up, and he encourages other former foster youth to get involved in advocacy work as it can provide a powerful perspective. Tristian's story is truly an inspiring example of how mentorship and a sense of purpose can help youth overcome adversity and reach their full potential, despite the challenges of the foster care system. I hope that you enjoy my conversation with Tristian, and, if you do, please be sure to grab a copy of his book, Against All Odds! Highlights: [1:20] - Hear how Tristian overcame childhood abuse and became an author and CASA volunteer. [5:02] - After cycling through 30 foster homes, Tristian finally thrived in therapeutic care and pursued multiple master's degrees. [7:19] - Tristian reveals how constant relocation hindered his ability to form long-term connections. [9:56] - Tristan believes that stricter foster parent standards and stronger empathy could have spared him years of neglect. [12:31] - Foster parent training overlooks communication, focusing instead on managing trauma rather than genuine connection. [13:06] - Tristian argues that foster parents need to engage children with love, learning, and compassion rather than screens. [16:36] - We discover how Tristian lost a loving foster home after a failed adoption and never regained that stability. [19:18] - Via discipline and leadership, Tristian's military service changed his trauma into self-reliance. [22:59] - Never having imagined such success, Tristian now inspires foster youth with lived experience and advocacy. [25:47] - Tristian credits two mentors he met as a young adult who became true parental figures in his life. [27:43] - Tristian encourages both foster youth and caregivers to build accountability, empathy, and resilience for success. Links & Resources: Tristian's LinkedIn Page Tristian Smith - Against All Odds: A Memoir
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31 MIN
Growing the Village for Foster Families with Gaile Osborne
SEP 26, 2025
Growing the Village for Foster Families with Gaile Osborne
Thanks for tuning back in to By Their Side, dear listeners! For this episode, I interview Gaile Osborne, the executive director of the Foster Family Alliance of North Carolina. Listen in as Gaile shares her personal experience as a foster and adoptive parent, having opened her home to over 28 children living in foster care. Gaile highlights the critical role of having a "village" of support for foster parents, whether through paid help like nannies and nurses, or a network of family and friends. She also discusses the challenges of secondary trauma and burnout that can come with advocating for foster children and families, explaining how she had to set boundaries to take care of her own mental health, even taking a two-month break at one point. Gaile also touches on the trauma that foster parents themselves experience and the importance of respite care in helping them recharge. As an advocate, Gaile shares her perspectives on the need for policy changes, emphasizing the delicate balance foster parents must strike between advocating for the child's best interests and supporting family reunification. She highlights the invaluable role that CASA volunteers can play in supporting foster families and stresses the importance of volunteers who take the time to truly understand the family dynamic. Throughout our insightful conversation, Gaile's passion for supporting foster families and advocating for systemic change is obvious, and her personal experiences and professional insights offer a powerful perspective on the foster care system! Enjoy my conversation with Gaile Osborne! Highlights: [1:38] - Fostering requires a strong support network, blending trusted caregivers, paid help, and community support. [4:16] - Respite has been the foundation that kept Gaile's family functioning through difficult times. [6:56] - Gaile reflects on having embraced leadership but learning to set boundaries after secondary trauma overwhelmed her. [10:29] - Foster parents endure both secondary trauma and firsthand traumatic experiences. [11:24] - Gaile realized how neglecting her own family while overworking forced her to step back and heal. [13:55] - During trauma triggers, Gaile slows life down, returning to basics. [16:35] - By listening more and tracking patterns, Gaile encourages honesty and prevents predictable behaviors. [19:44] - Gaile valued GALs who quietly observed, respected the family, and offered genuine support. [21:57] - A dedicated GAL's consistent presence and advocacy significantly influenced Gaile's family's adoption outcome. [23:53] - Gaile asserts that without enough GAL volunteers, children risk lacking representation in court proceedings. [25:12] - Gaile stresses how churches and communities can ease foster burdens via small, practical acts of kindness. [28:21] - Hear how even small gestures of compassion eased Gaile's deep sense of isolation. [29:02] - Gaile often hears comments mistaking her for a grandmother, leaving her searching for witty comebacks. [31:12] - Gaile wrestles with balancing foster parents' rights while supporting reunification and maintaining vital family bonds. [33:09] - Fostering requires deep emotional investment, yet ombudsman advocacy and permanency remain critical needs. [35:39] - Getting kids into permanent homes faster takes new laws because long waits really hurt families. [37:19] - Gaile credits her eldest daughter's resilience and spirit for shaping her child welfare advocacy. Links & Resources: Gaile's LinkedIn PageFoster Family Alliance of North Carolina's Website Disclaimer: The conversations you hear on this podcast reflect the personal views and experiences of our hosts and guests. They don't necessarily represent the perspectives of Voices for CASA Children.
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38 MIN
Every Role Matters with Neil Underwood
AUG 8, 2025
Every Role Matters with Neil Underwood
Welcome back to By Their Side, everyone! Joining me today is someone with a raw, real, and inspiring story to share. Neil Underwood is the General Manager of Autonation Toyota Tempe, and he comes onto the show for this episode to share his past as a child living through what so many kids in the foster care system are living through today. Before he was leading teams and earning industry-wide awards in the automotive industry, Neil was a teenager sleeping in his car between foster placements, struggling to finish high school after losing his mom and brother at a young age. Listen in as Neil shares what it was really like to grow up in the system in the '70s and '80s, bouncing between homes, (some of which were not even licensed) and how the absence of support systems like CASA shaped his path. We discuss the turning points that helped him keep going, even when it felt like no one else was in his corner, and while Neil's story is raw and real, what really struck me most was his refusal to quit on himself, and how that mindset now drives the way that he leads others and gives back to his community. Neil and I also get into the practical ways that people can show up for youth in foster care, and we don't just just mean professionals but also neighbors, mentors, employers, anyone. Neil offers thoughtful advice to those trying to make a difference: be consistent, be real, and never underestimate the power of simply caring. This conversation got me thinking about the ripple effect of even one adult showing up, and I am sure that will inspire some deep thought within you, too! Neil is proof that resilience is real but also that no kid should have to do it alone. I am so grateful that he shared his story with me and with you! Highlights: [1:54] - Hear how Neil rose from poverty and foster care to become a longtime car industry leader. [3:51] - A lack of support systems left Neil drifting through unstable homes and sleeping in his car. [6:33] - Shelters were overcrowded and bleak, but Neil pushed forward, determined not to give up. [9:38] - Facing sudden independence when he aged out, Neil learned that trust builds via consistent care and presence in kids' lives. [12:51] - Neil believes that strong leadership means understanding and supporting employees at every level, face-to-face. [14:52] - Winning AutoNation's CEO Award helped affirm Neil's commitment to community. [16:34] - Neil is a champion for youth programs, ensuring measurable impact and long-term support even after aging out. [18:58] - Hear how having no safety net taught Neil to rely on himself and keep moving forward. [21:37] - Surrounding yourself with the right people is important for staying focused and avoiding setbacks. [24:58] - Neil found strength and purpose via sports and community support despite early failures and temptations. [27:38] - Supporting kids' dreams via volunteering can impact their future and leave a lasting impression. [30:14] - Neil believes that kids in foster care can thrive when shown care, consistency, and positive attention early on. [33:45] - Many kids in group homes flourish academically when given support, even when they are initially written off. Links & Resources: Neil's LinkedIn Page
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34 MIN