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<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">在「镜面反射」的启动之初，我为节目想要对谈的嘉宾略定了两个方向：有趣的生活经历，有益的创作经验。带着这个设想我询问了身边很多朋友和作家编辑，想让他们为我推荐些适合邀请来做节目的创作者。去年很早的时候，作家阿乙听了我的节目定位，毫不犹豫说出一个名字：你可以请孟小书来啊。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">忙过了二十来期节目和十来场线下活动，终于和去年就写在计划册里的作家孟小书聊天了。雍和书庭是一家开在地坛公园的东墙外的书店，我早就发现是这一个录制播客的最佳场所，这次托雍和书庭的福，我和孟小书、阿乙的聊天小队就组成了。本期节目是七月份一个雨天里我们在雍和书庭的一次线下节目录制，从孟小书写的小说《猎物》出发，聊了聊离开自己安稳的家，去到经验之外的地方会对写作产生什么影响。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">孟小书的小说里写到一名化身为完美先生的骗子，在社交媒体用虚拟身份欺骗一位从事视频节目制作的网红女孩。作家阿乙在写作前的职业是警察，他多部作品中都写到了各种各样的骗子及受骗人的心态，我们就骗子及社会上遇到的新型骗术，聊了很多当今安全生活下可能遇到的危险。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">在全球化背景下的写作，与周遭环境中暗藏的未知，结合起来发生全新的张力。欢迎大家收听这期节目，一起探索生活中的古怪、危险，看到生活中的差异、平凡。经验是保护自身的最好手段，交流故事即获取经验。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a7c8-audiofreehighqps/5A/1F/GKwRIaIMTlRSACA3bQPkDeEw.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a7c8-audiofreehighqps/5A/1F/GKwRIaIMTlRSACA3bQPkDeEw.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a7c8-audiofreehighqps/5A/1F/GKwRIaIMTlRSACA3bQPkDeEw.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1333.3333333333333" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a7c8-audiofreehighqps/5A/1F/GKwRIaIMTlRSACA3bQPkDeEw.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="248.88888888888889"><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">时间轴：</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:01:22 有趣的生活经验及有帮助的写作经验</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:03:48 出发的困难，世界从越走越大到越走越小</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:07:11 穿州过府，跋山涉水。写作的基因突变，从城镇写作到城市写作</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:13:38 北京的乡村离市区很近，但稍微一走进北京的乡村，常谈论的那些AI就和这里没关系了</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:17:15 假期的后厂村空空荡荡，忙碌的IT产业恍然是一场从未发生的梦</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:19:38 生活在北京，并不代表一定现代化，中关村的衰落迎面贴在脸上</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:24:18 一周建好的过街天桥，一年多也没有通，反应了两种速度</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:28:31 衰落的时候恰恰能感到超常的稳定。从电影院出来像玩密室逃脱00:32:23 朋友消失的两种方式，离开人世，离开北京</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:35:55 曾经假死的店面才是最火的店面。当年被星探相中</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:38:45 为自己搭建安稳的生活后，突然被危险环伺</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:46:56 诈骗呈现工业化，大量试错得出来的最有效率的话术</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:50:35 从前一边谈恋爱一边学谈恋爱，现在连怎么哄对方开心都有话术</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:53:00 退休的人创收能力下降，容易成为骗子狩猎的对象</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:55:05 人为了执行一个话语，而爱上一个不该爱的人</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">00:59:05 骗子在网上已经不需要一个真实的肉身，符号化的骗子</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">01:01:59 在酒店大堂见到的杀猪盘骗子，长得斯斯文文</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">01:06:30 网上有人发来邮件假装发错了，问是不是Jennifer</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">01:11:37 人阅读和出发，是为了获得自己经验边界之外的东西</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">01:20:00 嫁到也门的女孩。特别干净的阿拉伯洗手间</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">01:29:44 新一代作家对全球化经验的获得和书写</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">01:34:39 在更广阔的视野下，同时又被更窄的绩效控制</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">01:38:50 现代社会是单方面互动。在科技改变生活的框架下，尽量找回自然主义</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">01:46:30 从巴塞罗那出发到北京，变成从三里屯出发到地坛</p><img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/723c-audiofreehighqps/33/4C/GAqh_aQMTlSLAA0-hwPkDgl4.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/723c-audiofreehighqps/33/4C/GAqh_aQMTlSLAA0-hwPkDgl4.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/723c-audiofreehighqps/33/4C/GAqh_aQMTlSLAA0-hwPkDgl4.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1192.0081967213114" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/723c-audiofreehighqps/33/4C/GAqh_aQMTlSLAA0-hwPkDgl4.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="222.50819672131146"><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="2" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a719-audiofreehighqps/D9/AF/GKwRIJEMTlSdAAep2gPkDhnr.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a719-audiofreehighqps/D9/AF/GKwRIJEMTlSdAAep2gPkDhnr.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a719-audiofreehighqps/D9/AF/GKwRIJEMTlSdAAep2gPkDhnr.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1196.311475409836" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a719-audiofreehighqps/D9/AF/GKwRIJEMTlSdAAep2gPkDhnr.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="223.31147540983605"><img data-key="3" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8952-audiofreehighqps/FB/6E/GAqhfD0MTlS1AAoQOAPkDjQV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8952-audiofreehighqps/FB/6E/GAqhfD0MTlS1AAoQOAPkDjQV.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8952-audiofreehighqps/FB/6E/GAqhfD0MTlS1AAoQOAPkDjQV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="770.2868852459018" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8952-audiofreehighqps/FB/6E/GAqhfD0MTlS1AAoQOAPkDjQV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="143.78688524590166"></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">本期提到的作者和作品：</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《红与黑》司汤达</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">贾平凹</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">陈忠实</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">苗炜</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">冯唐</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">老舍</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">陈建功</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">王朔</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">石一枫</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《阳光灿烂的日子》</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《绿皮火车》周云蓬</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">本雅明</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">钱钟书</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《骗子来到南方》</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《堂吉诃德》</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《花样年华》</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《敖鲁古雅》顾桃</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《完美的日子》维姆·文德斯</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《猎物》孟小书</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">杜梨</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">冯小宁</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">冯小刚</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">姜文</p><img data-key="4" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8989-audiofreehighqps/1D/76/GAqh1QQMTlTdAAOQDAPkDlcj.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8989-audiofreehighqps/1D/76/GAqh1QQMTlTdAAOQDAPkDlcj.jpg?op_type=0" 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data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5a21-audiofreehighqps/AE/43/GAqh4zIMTlT1AAOpzQPkDmpz.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="421.8337730870712" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5a21-audiofreehighqps/AE/43/GAqh4zIMTlT1AAOpzQPkDmpz.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="78.74230430958663"></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">本期音乐：</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">Bullet With Butterfly Wings-The Smashing Pumpkins</p><span><br></span>「镜面反射」：<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, 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