On this episode of Your Next Chapter, host Jeremiah Tittle chats with award-winning journalist and podcast creator Steve Fishman about navigating the evolving audio industry. Fishman, known for his gripping storytelling in Empire on Blood and My Friend the Serial Killer, shares the challenges of producing compelling podcasts on tight budgets and the importance of strong narrative endings.

They dive into Fishman’s quick success with a Sony greenlit series, the financial realities of podcast production, and innovative ways to sustain independent projects. Tittle and Fishman also discuss how collaborations and cross-promotion can help indie podcasts thrive in a crowded market, emphasizing the power of deeply reported, emotionally resonant storytelling.