This week Francis is joined by podcasting Amanda McLoughlin, CEO of Multitude and co-host of the podcasts Spirits, Attach Your Resume, and Join the Party. Amanda began her journey as a creator vlogging on YouTube and has since spent over a decade in the podcast space. __________ Amanda's Podcasts: Attach Your Resume: https://multitude.productions/ayr Join the Party: https://www.jointhepartypod.com Spirits: https://spiritspodcast.com Multitude: https://multitude.productions __________ 00:00:00 Introducing Amanda McLoughlin 00:01:29 Building a network through the early YouTube community 00:05:04 How the podcasting world has changed over the past decade 00:11:02 Forming Multitude 00:15:56 Building a top 0.1% without the algorithm 00:25:53 Podcast listeners are the most valuable audience 00:31:20 The most valuable thing you can do is say no 00:33:58 Diversifying your revenue streams 00:35:52 Sustainable creator-led businesses to model 00:38:53 Your podcast doesn't need to be profitable to be valuable 00:40:08 Never host your podcast with Spotify 00:45:58 All creators are a business 00:52:33 Platforms need creators, creators don't need platforms 00:56:13 Attach Your Résumé 01:01:46 What NOT to focus on as a creator #podcast #creatoreconomy #podcasting