<p><span style="color: rgb(29, 28, 29); background-color: transparent;">There’s no one in politics quite like </span><span style="color: rgb(29, 28, 29); background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248);">the Democratic governor of Colorado, Jared Polis</span><span style="color: rgb(29, 28, 29); background-color: transparent;">. He's a serial entrepreneur who cashed in on the dot-com boom and has pushed back on over-regulation of artificial intelligence and the tech industry. He’s in favor of abortion rights, but was against </span><span style="color: rgb(29, 28, 29); background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248);">overregulation of </span><span style="color: rgb(29, 28, 29); background-color: transparent;">mask mandates. He's pro-business and pro-weed. The “pro-liberty” governor joins host Megan McArdle to discuss Trump’s tariff and immigration policies, transgender care and how to make housing and health care more affordable.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">Timecodes</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">00:00 Welcome Gov. Jared Polis</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">01:27 Jared Polis’s entrepreneurial start</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">03:54 Three most important qualities in an entrepreneur</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">04:28 Most important qualities in a governor</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">05:00 Transition from tech to government</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">05:52 Transition from Congress to governor</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">07:03 First year as Governor</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">08:20 Regulation of Tech Companies</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">11:45 </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">The “Pro-business,” “Pro-trade” Party</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">15:02 Are tariffs shifting voters?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">16:35 Being pro-freedom</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">17:22 The only Democrat in The Liberty Caucus </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">18:39 The polarization of transgender care</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">22:59 The Jared Polis brand of politics</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">23:29 Making health care more affordable</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">27:40 Making housing more affordable</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">31:14 Does his politics have national appeal?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">32:22 Jared Polis’s MAGA uncle</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">33:24 Can Americans be civil again?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">34:55 How to fix Congress </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">36:02 The activist base of the Democratic Party</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">37:36 One thing to praise Trump on </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">38:32 Collecting Coins</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">41:02 What is Jared Polis reasonably optimistic about?</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">Subscribe to The Washington Post </span><a href="https://subscribe.washingtonpost.com/acquisition/?s_l=OFFSITE_PODCAST&p=s_v&s_dt=yearly&utm%5B%E2%80%A6%5De-podcast&utm_medium=acq-nat&utm_campaign=podcast-subs" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">here</a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">.</span></p>