Hey Not The Face! Podcast
Hey Not The Face! Podcast

Hey Not The Face! Podcast

John S. Nash & Stephie Haynes

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A newsletter and podcast covering the business of face-punching! heynottheface.substack.com

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How fast can Zuffa Boxing reach a $20B valuation? | Ep. 226
FEB 10, 2026
How fast can Zuffa Boxing reach a $20B valuation? | Ep. 226
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit <a href="https://heynottheface.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_7">heynottheface.substack.com</a><br/><br/><p> SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT</p><p>In today’s episode, we’re looking at Zuffa Boxing’s lofty goal of becoming a $20B third arm of TKO’s combat sports empire and how that can be achieved. We also discuss Floyd Mayweather’s legal complaint in detail and whether we think it will be settled. We review the WBC’s latest failings and include Mauricio Sulaiman’s social media faux pas along with those. But in our introductory segment, we walk down Memory Lane with a discussion of the classic movie <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxi_Driver"><strong><em>Taxi Driver</em></strong></a> which celebrated its 50th anniversary on Feb. 8th. John is a certified cinema nerd, so this was a rare treat for him. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen:</p><p>*We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going* </p><p>Episode 226 Outline</p><p>* Taxi Driver 50th anniversary chat</p><p>* Are there any updates to the UFC antitrust cases?</p><p>* Now that we have Floyd Mayweather’s lawsuit available to look at, what are your initial thoughts after looking it over?</p><p>* Does the complaint say how much he did make in his career and how much is unaccountable?</p><p>* Is there a reason they are suing Showtime and Espinoza and not Al Haymon?</p><p>* Stephen Espinoza seems unbothered by the accusations against him. Do you think he should be worried?</p><p>* Do you think it will be settled?</p><p>* The sanctioning organizations, specifically the WBC, are under fire again, with Shakur Stevenson declining to pay $100K in fees. What’s going on that we should know about?</p><p>* Do you think Mauricio Sulaiman is handling things correctly considering his social media behavior (liking derogatory/demeaning posts about Shakur)?</p><p>* An interview was conducted with Mark Shapiro and Ari Emanuel where they discussed the value of UFC and WWE being $20B/each. Do you agree with that valuation?</p><p>* Shapiro said there are still ways they can cut costs from UFC and WWE. Are you surprised by that and do you have any ideas how they could possibly achieve that?</p><p>* They said they will be announcing some international deals soon. What might those be?</p><p>* They also discussed their goal of bringing Zuffa Boxing to that point. Do you think it’s possible, and how fast could they get it to that value?</p><p>* Nakisa Bidarian noted in an interview that he felt Zuffa Boxing would be successful thanks to them playing the long game. Thoughts on that?</p><p><strong>*Floyd Mayweather’s lawsuit complaint PDF*</strong></p><p></p>
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Summary of UFC Antitrust Spoliation Hearing | Ep. 225
FEB 7, 2026
Summary of UFC Antitrust Spoliation Hearing | Ep. 225
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit <a href="https://heynottheface.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_7">heynottheface.substack.com</a><br/><br/><p> SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT</p><p>In today’s episode, we’re looking at both days of the UFC antitrust spoliation hearing. It’s our comprehensive review of Dana White’s testimony, Tracy Long’s, Hunter Campbell’s, and the two assistants tasked with setting up phones, social media and clouds for UFC executives. We discuss Judge Boulware’s interactions, the believability of testimony, possible remedies if UFC is found to have malice with missing discovery and what comes next. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen:</p><p>*We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going* </p><p>Episode 225 Outline</p><p>* What stood out most to you from Day 1 proceedings?</p><p>* What were the most significant things revealed on Day 1?</p><p>* Do you think people should fully invest in the idea that Dana White is no longer part of contract negotiations and matchmaking?</p><p>* On the first day’s proceedings, Michael Dell Angelo seemed to irritate the judge on a couple occasions. Is that an accurate statement?</p><p>* What was Tracy Long’s demeanor?</p><p>* Do you believe the story of Ari Emanuel’s relative stealing crucial evidence?</p><p>* What were the most significant things revealed on Day 2?</p><p>* Personal assistants and tech advisors to the UFC were brought in to testify about the setting up of phones, social media, etc. Did you find their testimony particularly impactful?</p><p>* Were you surprised by anything Hunter Campbell said?</p><p>* Do you feel like he was in cleanup mode after Dana’s testimony?</p><p>* Judge Boulware stated that the UFC’s failure to produce these messages, phones, et al were sanctionable offenses. What would be the most likely sanction?</p><p>* What’s next for UFC; did Boulware issue any orders?</p><p><strong>*Chart Exhibit of Missing Data from Employee Devices*</strong></p><p></p>
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