What if the #1 cause of clinician burnout and patient non-adherence is the same problem? In this episode, Dr. Lillian Liang Emlet and master certified coach Hélène Thériault reveal how shifting from a "fix-it" expert mindset to a coach approach — doing with patients instead of for them — can transform clinical outcomes, reduce burnout, and change healthcare culture one small conversation at a time.
Chapters & Time-Stamps
00:55 Meet Helene Thierault
02:40 Two Turning Points
07:17 Backpack Burnout Metaphor
12:09 With Not For Mindset
15:22 Coach Approach Explained
20:18 Dive Program Levels
25:21 Hardest Habits to Break
28:34 One Tiny Clinic Shift
33:15 Make a Request Technique
36:52 Results and Success Stories
39:28 Resources
GUEST
Hélène Thériault, MCC, OT
- Registered Occupational Therapist, Master Certified Coach (ICF), Clinical Instructor at the University of British Columbia, and founder of Function First Coaching — creator of the Dive Into a Coach Approach certification, training hundreds of healthcare professionals across North America.
🌐 Function First Coaching
REFERENCES
📄 The Symmetry of Failure — whitepaper by Hélène Thériault (60% burnout = 60% patient non-adherence)
🎓 Dive Into a Coach Approach — micro-credentialing program (Level 1: 12 hrs self-paced) https://diveintoacoachapproach.com/transforming-healthcare-coaching/
🗣️ VitalTalk — communication skills training
🌐 International Coaching Federation (ICF) — coaching credentialing body
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