In Episode 3 of the Naughty by Nature podcast, Treen and Michael Gungor, musician and host of The Liturgist Podcast, breach the taboo topic (in Christian circles) of ‘Deconstruction’. Matched with John Itiola, a comedian who plays an overworked and underappreciated version of ‘God’, this trio divulges the challenges that come from questioning Christian constructs. Non-Christians might wonder, why is it so hard to leave Evangelicalism? This episode addresses the plethora of fears and beliefs that come with saying goodbye to the Christian church. Treen and Michael discuss the unique hang ups in their deconstruction journeys, the power of mystical experiences and both the chaos and freedom that ensued. They get real, raw, and giggle…a lot!To join us on this hilarious ride, follow us here as well as on Instagram @nxnpod for more goodies!You can follow Michael Gungor on Instagram @michaelgungor.You can follow John Itiola on Instagram @wordsplayed. Join our naughty community by signing up for our mailing list. Go to https://www.treentreen.com /  Naughty by Nature / wait for the pop up and enter your email address.Produced by:  https://www.rainbowcreative.co https://www.verna.studio https://www.treentreen.com 00:00 Welcome to the Naughty by Nature Podcast00:39 Meet God and God’s “most favorite” son, Michael Gungor01:59 The Journey of Deconstruction05:14 Defining Deconstruction09:28 A Moment of Surrender18:08 Mystical Experiences and Support22:55 The Role of Shame and Fear24:48 Clearing the Air with God: A Holy Moment25:47 Deconstructing Spiritual Warfare and Fear: The Mark of the Beast28:32 Taboo Topics: Masturbation, Polyamory, and Other Deities30:08 Reclaiming Faith: A New Perspective on God32:08 Stages of Deconstruction: A Humorous Take33:49 Questions Every Believer Encounters36:08 Reclaiming Christianity: Integrating the Past40:16 Final Thoughts and Farewells Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices