<p>Where does the boundary lie between bad behaviour and outright corruption? This week Ben wants to understand how corruption and the fight against it are destructive forces in a democracy. </p><br><p><strong>Guests: </strong></p><ul><li>Simon Kuper, journalist and author of ‘Good Chaps’ and ‘Chums’</li><li>Ezequiel González Ocantos, Professor of Comparative & Judicial Politics at Nuffield College, University of Oxford</li></ul><p><br></p><p>What’s Wrong with Democracy? is produced by Tortoise Media and supported by the Open Society Foundations. </p><br><p>To find out more about Tortoise:</p><br><p><a href="https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/tortoise/id1441428990" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Download</a> the Tortoise app - for a listening experience curated by our journalists.</p><br><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/channel/tortoise/id6442666997" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Subscribe</a> to Tortoise+ on Apple Podcasts for early access and ad-free content.</p><br><p><a href="https://www.tortoisemedia.com/join-us/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Become a member</a> and get access to all of Tortoise's premium audio offerings and more.</p><br><p>If you want to get in touch with us directly about a story, or tell us more about the stories you want to hear about contact <a href="mailto:[email protected]" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">[email protected]</a></p><br><p>Host: Professor Ben Ansell</p><p>Producers: Ada Barume and Eleanor Biggs</p><p>Editor: Jasper Corbett</p><p>Original artwork: Jon Hill | Emma O’Neil </p><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
