Meredith Koop is the stylist responsible for Michelle Obama’s style evolution over the years—from her days as the First Lady to beyond the White House. This November, the duo teamed up to document the details of that journey in the new book The Look. On this episode of Nice Talk, Koop delves into her journey to becoming Mrs. Obama’s stylist, the surprising elements she had to consider when crafting an outfit (podiums were a big deal, for example), and what life post–White House has meant for Mrs. Obama’s style.