<p>This episode was recorded on <a href="http://scripting.com/2004/09/28.html">September 28, 2004</a>. </p><p>From the show notes, preserved on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050212202716/http://secrets.scripting.com/2004/09/28#a42">archive.org</a>, written by Adam: "I've learned over the past weeks to always have the audio recording setup ready when Dave and I chat. We always talk voip and have been trying different setups and applications. But inadvertantly, one of will say "we should be recording this" and I flip the switch. This morning Dave was up early and we recorded a podcast, where we talked about 'leakage', played some prince and finally got the sip-phone stuff working"</p><p>Dave's notes on <a href="http://scripting.com/2004/09/28.html#When:8:05:26AM">scripting.com</a>: "In it Adam and I discuss the merits of Mac vs Windows. Now of course I'm getting (friendly) email from people suggesting that I get a Mac. I'll make a deal. If John Kerry wins I'll get a Mac."</p><p><a href="https://s3.amazonaws.com/scripting.com/publicfolder/downloads/podcasts/2004/09/28/tsSep28.mp3">36 minute podcast</a>.</p>