What do a maxed-out credit card, a gas station meltdown, and one of the biggest money podcasts in the country have in common? Joe. This week on The LIV Lab, I sit down with Joe Saul-Sehy, host of Stacking Benjamins, to talk about the story he doesn't hide: the messy one. Before the awards. Before the financial advice. Before helping millions of people feel confident about money. There was confusion, and a few (a lot of) questionable decisions. And some very real wake-up calls. Joe shares how he went from feeling completely out of control to building systems, surrounding himself with the right people, and redefining what "success" actually means. We talk about money, but we also talk about identity, creativity, leadership, risk, and the difference between security and opportunity. In this episode, we explore: • Why making more money doesn't automatically fix anything • The mindset shift that changed everything • "Who not how" and why community matters more than we think • The illusion of security in careers and life • How creativity became his unexpected superpower • What money can do, and what it absolutely cannot The LIV Call to Action Learn: More money will not fix bad habits. Learn one new system this week. Talk to someone who is good with money, watch something, or read something that stretches you. Innovate: It is not about working harder. It is about building better systems. Create one small habit that makes your future easier. Venture: Have one uncomfortable but important money conversation. Be honest about where you are at. 📩 Share your week's LIV! Email me at [email protected] Learn more about Joe at https://joesaulsehy.com/. Read his (awesome) book: Stacked: Your Super-Serious Guide to Modern Money Managemen Listen to his (fantastic) podcast: Stacking Benjamins at https://www.stackingbenjamins.com/