Hold or Fold
Hold or Fold

Hold or Fold

National Prison Radio

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A podcast for anyone who has suffered from gambling related harm. 'Hold or Fold' explores the 'hidden addiction' that is gambling with a keen eye on how this affects those with experience of the Criminal Justice System.Your hosts Ben & Steve both spent time in prison as a direct result of their gambling addiction - On Hold or Fold they share the stories of people who, like them, have been taken to the brink by gambling. You'll hear how gambling took a hold of people's lives, the dark places this led them to and how they were able to embark on the road to recovery.This is part of the 'Life After Prison' podcast network from the multi-award winning 'National Prison Radio'

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Recent Episodes

27. "I spun through £147k in 2 days" | Ben Howard
DEC 2, 2025
27. "I spun through £147k in 2 days" | Ben Howard

Ben Howard first made an appearance on Hold or Fold when it was exclusive to National Prison Radio. At that point he was in limbo, waiting to see if his crimes would lead him to prison or not.


He waited 4 years for his case to land, served his sentence, and came out determined to turn hard lessons into real change. In this episode he talks about how gambling took over his life, the unlikely friendship he formed on the prison bus and the informal research he carried out on his wing to count how many people had been harmed by gambling.


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Call the National Gambling helpline, for free, on 0808 8020 133


If you would like to get in touch with Hold or Fold and ask us a question, suggest a topic or start a conversation, you can E-mail us at...

📧: [email protected]

💬 DM us: @holdorfoldpod on Instagram & Twitter (X) 

✉️ Write to us: Life After Prison, National Prison Radio, HMP Brixton, London SW2 5XF


This episode is hosted by...

Ben Jones & Steve Girling


You can find out more about the work of the 'Prison Radio Association' and 'National Prison Radio' here:

https://prison.radio/



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26. The rapper who's tracks on addiction and mental health went viral | Jah Digga
NOV 25, 2025
26. The rapper who's tracks on addiction and mental health went viral | Jah Digga

In this raw and powerful episode of Hold or Fold, Nottingham rapper and poet Jah Digga opens up about his battle with gambling addiction, and the creative lifeline that saved him.


Behind the viral hit “Addictions”, there’s a deeply personal story; nights spent haunted by visions of cards and chips, insomnia, and the relentless “chase” that drove him to near rock bottom.


Raised in a rough neighbourhood, Jah watched his siblings jailed or worse, and vowed to carve out a different path. Through writing, rapping, and poetry, he channeled his pain into purpose, and found an alternative route to the one laid out for him


He talks to fellow Nottingham lad Ben about how gambling impacted his life, how his mental health suffered, and the coping strategies that helped him reclaim his life - From playing 'games' against the casino to building structure with gym routines and art. He also reflects on the power of community, the importance of celebrating real achievements in disadvantaged areas, and why he believes that creativity can be a force for healing and hope.


USEFUL LINKS:



TELL US WHAT YOU THINK BY FILLING OUT THIS QUICK SURVEY - THANKS SO MUCH


Call the National Gambling helpline, for free, on 0808 8020 133


If you would like to get in touch with Hold or Fold and ask us a question, suggest a topic or start a conversation, you can E-mail us at...

📧: [email protected]

💬 DM us: @holdorfoldpod on Instagram & Twitter (X) 

✉️ Write to us: Life After Prison, National Prison Radio, HMP Brixton, London SW2 5XF


This episode is hosted by...

Ben Jones & Steve Girling


You can find out more about the work of the 'Prison Radio Association' and 'National Prison Radio' here:

https://prison.radio/


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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53 MIN
25. 'Debts are getting bigger, bets are getting bigger, I'm completely losing control' | Mark from Whysup
NOV 18, 2025
25. 'Debts are getting bigger, bets are getting bigger, I'm completely losing control' | Mark from Whysup

In this powerful episode, we sit down with Mark Murray, co-founder of the mental health and addiction charity Whysup, to unpack a life that could’ve gone very differently. 


As a teenager, Mark was on the books at Manchester City, a promising football career ahead but everything shifted when he became a father at just 16. To cope with the pressure, Mark turned to gambling. What began as a way out soon spiralled into a 13-year addiction that would leave him drowning in debt, facing threats, and entangled with dangerous people. 


Mark found help at Gordon Moody, where he rebuilt his life. It’s here that the spark for Whysup was born: using lived experience as the foundation to drive change


USEFUL LINKS:



TELL US WHAT YOU THINK BY FILLING OUT THIS QUICK SURVEY - THANKS SO MUCH


Call the National Gambling helpline, for free, on 0808 8020 133


If you would like to get in touch with Hold or Fold and ask us a question, suggest a topic or start a conversation, you can E-mail us at...

📧: [email protected]

💬 DM us: @holdorfoldpod on Instagram & Twitter (X) 

✉️ Write to us: Life After Prison, National Prison Radio, HMP Brixton, London SW2 5XF


This episode is hosted by...

Ben Jones & Steve Girling


You can find out more about the work of the 'Prison Radio Association' and 'National Prison Radio' here:

https://prison.radio/


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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42 MIN
24. 'When I was arrested, the Officer sat me down and said...You've got a problem' | Martin's Story
NOV 11, 2025
24. 'When I was arrested, the Officer sat me down and said...You've got a problem' | Martin's Story

On this episode, Steve sits down for an open and honest chat with Martin. Martin tells us how his childhood led him to gambling and what started as fruit machines by the sea soon became spending a full day, on one machine, in a bookmaker


Martin also shares how his prison experience changed him, made him better understand himself and taught him to make the best of every situation through embracing the present


USEFUL LINKS:



TELL US WHAT YOU THINK BY FILLING OUT THIS QUICK SURVEY - THANKS SO MUCH


Call the National Gambling helpline, for free, on 0808 8020 133


If you would like to get in touch with Hold or Fold and ask us a question, suggest a topic or start a conversation, you can E-mail us at...

📧: [email protected]

💬 DM us: @holdorfoldpod on Instagram & Twitter (X) 

✉️ Write to us: Life After Prison, National Prison Radio, HMP Brixton, London SW2 5XF


This episode is hosted by...

Ben Jones & Steve Girling


You can find out more about the work of the 'Prison Radio Association' and 'National Prison Radio' here:

https://prison.radio/

 




Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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48 MIN
23. Gambling in Black Communities | Kiki & Ryan from Betknowmore
NOV 4, 2025
23. Gambling in Black Communities | Kiki & Ryan from Betknowmore

This episode explores the links between gambling harm in Black communities and the Criminal Justice System. Ben is joined by Ryan Taylor-Hines & Kiki Marriott from BetKnowMore to unpack how culture, targeted industry practices and social inequality shape gambling risk - And what community-led responses like “Breaking the Cycle” actually do on the ground to help address the problem and raise awareness


USEFUL LINKS:



TELL US WHAT YOU THINK BY FILLING OUT THIS QUICK SURVEY - THANKS SO MUCH


Call the National Gambling helpline, for free, on 0808 8020 133


If you would like to get in touch with Hold or Fold and ask us a question, suggest a topic or start a conversation, you can E-mail us at...

📧: [email protected]

💬 DM us: @holdorfoldpod on Instagram & Twitter (X) 

✉️ Write to us: Life After Prison, National Prison Radio, HMP Brixton, London SW2 5XF


This episode is hosted by...

Ben Jones & Steve Girling


You can find out more about the work of the 'Prison Radio Association' and 'National Prison Radio' here:

https://prison.radio/

 



Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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48 MIN