Diabolical Lies
Diabolical Lies

Diabolical Lies

Katie Gatti Tassin & Caro Claire Burke

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Jeffrey Epstein & the Ordinary Misogyny of "Extraordinary" Men
MAR 8, 2026
Jeffrey Epstein & the Ordinary Misogyny of "Extraordinary" Men
<p>Some quick housekeeping to start this lovely Sunday:</p><p>If you’ve already pre-ordered Caro’s debut novel <em>Yesteryear, </em>or <a target="_blank" href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/780686/yesteryear-by-caro-claire-burke/">wish to do so now</a>, Knopf wants to thank you. They’re sending custom, limited edition bandanas to DL Substack subscribers — all you have to do is <a target="_blank" href="https://sites.prh.com/yesteryear/preorderpromotion/">input proof of your order in this link here</a>, and they’ll ship you the bandana, clean and simple. (This is only for US subscribers.) Thanks so much for the support, y’all!</p><p>Jeffrey Epstein got away with it because he was richer than God. No — he got away with it because he had a rolodex filled with the most influential and powerful people on the planet. No — he got away with it because of his wiliness, and his almost preternatural ability to charm people. </p><p>All of these claims have been discussed to death in both mainstream and alternative media, and continue to serve as the prevailing theories for why this man was able to abuse young women at a terrifying scale for decades without suffering legal repercussions for it. </p><p>Today, we discuss an alternative hypothesis. </p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.npr.org/2019/07/19/742725946/a-young-jeffrey-epstein-made-an-impression-on-his-high-school-students">”A Young Jeffrey Epstein Made An Impression On His High School Students,”</a> by Cat Schuknecht for NPR</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/16/magazine/jeffrey-epstein-money-scams-investigation.html">“Scams, Schemes, Ruthless Cons: The Untold Story of How Jeffrey Epstein Got Rich,” </a>by David Enrich, Steve Eder, Jessica Silver-Greenberg, and Matthew Goldstein for <em>The New York Times </em></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303?srsltid=AfmBOooRmWWg3I5-Q3oFn9zESGRHDODYPWodxrbFYPpK4CfaRZa7AsPL">“The Talented Mr. Epstein,”</a> a March 2003 profile by Vicky Ward for <em>Vanity Fair </em></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/">“Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery,”</a> a 2002 profile by Landon Thomas Jr. for <em>New York Magazine</em></p><p>Here’s <a target="_blank" href="https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2006/08/14/had-everything-jeffrey-epstein-craved-big-homes-elite-friends-and-investigators-say-underage-girls/4712721007/?gnt-cfr=1&#38;gca-cat=p&#38;gca-uir=true&#38;gca-epti=z113950e113950v003856d--42--&#38;gca-ft=315&#38;gca-ds=sophi">one of the many, many early pieces of reporting</a> I leaned on from <em>The Palm Beach Post</em>; not going to link all of them because it would fill Substack’s word count limit but highly encourage poring through their 2005/2006 archives</p><p>And here’s <a target="_blank" href="https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01249718.pdf">a pretty interesting FBI transcript</a> of an interview with former Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter, conducted in 2020</p><p>And here’s the deposition interview between unproblematic king Brad Edwards and World-Renowned Fucking Loser Epstein:</p><p>Highly encourage anyone and everyone to read Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s memoir, <a target="_blank" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/untitled-3120/509397d77f31ae69?ean=9780593493137&#38;next=t&#38;next=t&#38;digital=t&#38;listref_curated=t&#38;listref=popular-preorders&#38;utm_source=google&#38;utm_medium=cpc&#38;utm_campaign=dsa_nonbrand&#38;utm_content={adgroupname}&#38;utm_term=aud-1885352274224:dsa-19959388920&#38;gad_source=1&#38;gad_campaignid=12440232635&#38;gbraid=0AAAAACfld42U2XQhLbTFMTc8Vlh5TNxDw&#38;gclid=CjwKCAiAtq_NBhA_EiwA78nNWImodEp8gV1EXU37YeSOTASS1JYfvwFLtIACk8cpOust7HkAHLl1rhoC4m4QAvD_BwE"><em>Nobody’s Girl</em></a></p><p>Here is <a target="_blank" href="https://www.npr.org/2020/07/31/896627505/judge-releases-trove-of-sealed-records-related-to-case-against-ghislaine-maxwell">the deposition</a> Katie and I role-played where a Very Smart Lawyer played Very Smart Gotcha with Giuffre about, checks notes, whether or not she was a bartender in 2007</p><p>Here’s where a federal judge decided that <a target="_blank" href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/07/prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein-florida">Giuffre’s testimony about Epstein’s sex trafficking ring was not relevant</a> to a case about Epstein’s sex trafficking ring</p><p>Here is <a target="_blank" href="https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article221404845.html">a timeline from the Miami Herald </a>on all this gruesome shit; cc looking through their archives, too, as well as the archives for <em>The Tampa Bay Times </em>for any interested armchair sleuths </p><p>If you liked that timeline by reporter Julie K. Brown, consider reading her book, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/perversion-of-justice-julie-k-brown?variant=44010796908578"><em>Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story</em></a></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/08/magazine/jeffrey-epstein-jp-morgan.html">”How JPMorgan Enabled the Crimes of Jeffrey Epstein,”</a> by David Enrich, Matthew Goldstein, and Jessica Silver-Greenberg for <em>The New York Times</em></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/31/politics/jeffrey-epstein-financial-records-unsealed-jp-morgan">“Newly Unsealed Epstein Records Shed Light on Years of His Financial Transactions with Wall St. Figures,”</a> by Kara Scannell for CNN</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://jmail.world/">Here’s a link to the Epstein email dump, neatly organized in this little faux-inbox</a></p><p>Here’s <a target="_blank" href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/15248380241261404">the meta study elaborating on the justice gap</a>, which highlights precisely how fucked survivors of sexual assault are in their efforts to seek justice</p><p>Read Jessica Knoll’s phenomenal book,<a target="_blank" href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Bright-Young-Women/Jessica-Knoll/9781501153235"> </a><a target="_blank" href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Bright-Young-Women/Jessica-Knoll/9781501153235"><em>Bright Young Women,</em></a><em> </em>if you want a highly entertaining and cathartic literary experience to exorcise the fury from your body</p><p>Thanks (and also sorry???) for listening!</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. 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Usha Vance, Rama Duwaji, & the Tragedy of Heterosexuality
FEB 8, 2026
Usha Vance, Rama Duwaji, & the Tragedy of Heterosexuality
<p>Little bit of a heterosexual smackdown taking place today!</p><p>But first, some housekeeping:</p><p>As a reminder: Caro’s debut novel, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/780686/yesteryear-by-caro-claire-burke/"><em>YESTERYEAR</em></a><em>, </em>is coming out this spring (April 7th, to be exact), <strong>and she would love to see you all at the evening launch event in NYC.</strong> One can reasonably assume there will be laughter, tears, a book signing, and Caro on a stage looking incredibly sweaty while she talks about all things America, womanhood, tradwives, writing sex scenes in fiction, etc. She’ll be joined on stage by the famed pod duo Claire Parker and Ashley Hamilton as moderators for the evening, which essentially means we have finagled this book launch into a pseudo Good Noticings/Diabolical Lies crossover event. Ur welcome.</p><p>Also, we’d be so grateful if you humored us with a little anthropological insight by letting us know how you found the pod. <a target="_blank" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1pVdYQlkPXPFe_d-9tg03qRaads9TGYlMqxLdoIj4Oqc/edit">Quick survey here.</a></p><p>Now, onto the show notes.</p><p>The Usha-Verse</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thecut.com/article/usha-vance-trump-jd-vance-interview.html">“What Is Usha Vance Thinking?,”</a> by Irin Carmon for The Cut</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/01/style/usha-jd-vance-ohio.html">“From Yale to Newsmax, Usha Vance Has Helped J.D. Vance Chart His Path,”</a> by Joseph Bernstein and Katherine Rosman for <em>The New York Times</em></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.wuft.org/2024-08-05/usha-vance-tries-to-defend-her-husbands-childless-cat-ladies-comment">“Usha Vance Tries to Defend her Husband’s ‘Childless Cat Ladies’ Comment,”</a> by Eric McDaniel for NPR</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/jd-vance-wife-usha-vance-politics-amy-chua.html?pay=1770400751712&#38;support_journalism=please">“The One Thing You Need to Know to Understand Usha Vance,”</a> by Susan Matthews for Slate</p><p>…and of course, <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897?i=1000605525204">If Books Could Kill’s Coverage of </a><a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897?i=1000605525204"><em>Hillbilly Elegy</em></a></p><p>The Rama-Verse</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.thecut.com/article/rama-duwaji-cut-cover-interview-zohran-mamdani.html">“The Artist in Gracie Mansion,”</a> by Danya Issawi for The Cut</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://thisisyungmea.com/spotlight-rama-duwaji/">“Artist Spotlight of Rama Duwaji,”</a> by Nasri Atallah for YUNG</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://time.com/7331596/mamdani-transition-team-women/">“Mamdani Names an All-Woman Transition Team,”</a> by Nandika Chatterjee for TIME</p><p>The Tragedy of Heterosexuality</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-tragedy-of-heterosexuality-jane-ward/cd51435ab05e61bd">Read the book </a></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170315-the-invention-of-heterosexuality">“The invention of ‘heterosexuality’,”</a> by Brandon Ambrosino for the BBC</p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.diabolicalliespod.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.diabolicalliespod.com/subscribe</a>
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116 MIN