<description>&lt;p&gt;The late 1960s were supposed to be proof that things were working.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Civil rights legislation had passed. The language of progress was everywhere. On paper, it looked like the system had responded.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But on the ground?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That story didn’t hold.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This episode explores the turning point of the 1960s civil rights movement, where protests, policing, and public trust in American institutions began to shift.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;From the Watts uprising to the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr., from student protests and occupations at Columbia University to the Chicano walkouts across the Southwest, from the American Indian Movement and the occupation of Alcatraz to the Stonewall uprising, this wasn’t a series of isolated events.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It was people adjusting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Figuring out what to do when the rules they were told to follow stopped producing the outcomes they were promised.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And as that shift took hold, something else changed too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Protest started getting framed as disruption.Rights became “security.”And policing and state response to dissent began to evolve in real time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;By the time we get to 1968 and the years just beyond it, what looks like chaos starts to read differently.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not as breakdown.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As recognition.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This episode covers the history of civil rights, 1960s protest movements, policing in America, and the evolution of state surveillance and counterintelligence.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This episode was written by and produced by Angélica Cordero, with a little help from ChatGPT. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our theme song is &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://fold.bandcamp.com/track/dont-kid-yourself-baby"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Don’t Kid Yourself Baby&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://fold.fm/"&gt;Fold&lt;/a&gt;, used with their blessings. Podcast artwork for &lt;em&gt;The Persistence &lt;/em&gt;features Mexican-American activist &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/jovita-idar"&gt;Jovita Idar&lt;/a&gt; and was created by Tamra Collins of &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/sunroot.studio/"&gt;Sunroot Studio&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Resources For Fellow Wascally Wabbits&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Books&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://files.libcom.org/files/A%20People%27s%20History%20of%20the%20Unite%20-%20Howard%20Zinn.pdf"&gt;A People’s History of the United States&lt;/a&gt; by Howard Zinn&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Chale No, We Won’t Go!” The Chicano Moratorium Committee in &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://muse.jhu.edu/book/25450"&gt;“Mi raza primero!” (My People First!): Nationalism, Identity, and Insurgency in the Chicano Movement in Los Angeles, 1966-1978&lt;/a&gt; by Ernesto Chávez&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/massacreinmexico00poni/page/n1/mode/2up"&gt;Massacre in Mexico&lt;/a&gt; by Elena Poniatowska (New York , Viking Press, 1975)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://livecomsjournal.org/plugins/generic/pdfJsViewer/pdf.js/web/viewer.html?file=https%3A%2F%2Flivecomsjournal.org%2Findex.php%2Fhonorsjournal%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F2797%2F1889%2F11031"&gt;¡Raza Sí! ¡Guerra No!: The Chicano Movement from South Vietnam to the American Southwest&lt;/a&gt; by Dillon Otto, University of Colorado Honors Journal&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/seventiesgreatsh0000schu"&gt;Seventies: The Great Shift in American Culture, Society, and Politics&lt;/a&gt; by Bruce J. Schulman&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://guides.loc.gov/latinx-civil-rights/national-chicano-moratorium"&gt;“1970: National Chicano Moratorium,”&lt;/a&gt; (A Latinx Resource Guide: Civil Rights Cases and Events in the United States, Hispanic, Research Guides, Library of Congress)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.latimes.com/projects/chicano-moratorium/assets/pdf/chicanomoratoriumzinecolor.pdf"&gt;“The Chicano Moratorium: 50 Years Later,”&lt;/a&gt; (Los Angeles Times, Aug 2020)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://libguides.nypl.org/stonewall50research/exhibits"&gt;“Exhibits,”&lt;/a&gt; Stonewall 50: A Guide Honoring the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Riots and LGBTQ History, (Research Centers &amp; Library, New York Public Library, Apr 21, 2026)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/flying-flag-upside-down/"&gt;“Flying Flag Upside Down,”&lt;/a&gt; (Issues, Issues Related to Speech, Press, Assembly, or Petition, Free Speech Center, Middle Tennessee State University, Sep 2025)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://history.state.gov/milestones/1830-1860/indian-treaties"&gt;“Indian Treaties and the Removal Act of 1830,”&lt;/a&gt; (1830-1860, Milestones, The Office of the Historian)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.tclf.org/sites/default/files/microsites/landslide2024/locations/chicano.html"&gt;“National Chicano Moratorium March,”&lt;/a&gt; (Locations, Demonstration Grounds)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://library.law.howard.edu/civilrightshistory/lgbtq/stonewall"&gt;“The Stonewall Riots,”&lt;/a&gt; A Brief History of Civil Rights in the United States: The Stonewall Riots, (Research Guides, Vernon E. Jordon Law Library, Howard University)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-1996-title36/pdf/USCODE-1996-title36-chap10-sec176.pdf"&gt;“United States Flag Code (4 U.S.C. Chapter 1),”&lt;/a&gt; (Title 36, Chapter 10, Section 176, GovInfo)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Other&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://houstonpbs.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/e05a1478-ed35-4c6a-abd7-dd66dc5c40bf/the-1968-la-school-walkouts-retro-report/"&gt;“The 1968 L.A. School Walkouts,”&lt;/a&gt; (Retro Report, Public Broadcast Station)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adpVf6yMlew"&gt;“Alcatraz,”&lt;/a&gt; (FootageWorld, 1969) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/TTIdiPhACXQ1vBhclq2YwKKRHjAzw6"&gt;“Chicano,”&lt;/a&gt; by J. Gary Mitchell (BFA Educational Media, Archive.org, 1971)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8wzjPuDdZk"&gt;“Chicano Moratorium: A Question of Freedom,”&lt;/a&gt; (UCLA, 1971)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://openresearch.okstate.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/9c84e1f1-1b2f-42f9-b96d-d3e9c19b714a/content"&gt;“Chicano Nationalism: The Brown Berets and Legal Social Control”&lt;/a&gt; by Jennifer G. Correa (Oklahoma State University, July 2006)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/Columbia1969"&gt;“Columbia Revolt (Part I),”&lt;/a&gt; (Newsreel, Archive.org, 1969)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/Columbia1969_2"&gt;“Columbia Revolt (Part II),”&lt;/a&gt; (Newsreel, Archive.org, 1969)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/kentstatemay1970"&gt;"Kent State: May 1970,"&lt;/a&gt; (Archive.org, 1972)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kyCdagO3UA&amp;#38;t=1249s"&gt;“Movimiento Estudiantil 1968,”&lt;/a&gt; (Cine en Línea, Cine Rescatado y Restaurado, Filmoteca de la UNAM, 1968)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB10/nsaebb10.htm"&gt;"Tlatelolco Massacre: Declassified U.S. Documents on Mexico and the Events of 1968"&lt;/a&gt; by Kate Doyle (National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book, No. 10, The National Security Archive, George Washington University)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OxkX1mOiVU&amp;#38;t=102s"&gt;“Watts: Riot or Revolt,”&lt;/a&gt; (CBS Reports, American History TV, Dec 1965)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/RainbowQuest08"&gt;“New Lost City Ramblers,”&lt;/a&gt; (Episode 8, Pete Seeger’s Rainbow Quest, Archive.org, 1965)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Support&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It’s free, it’s fast, and it tells the algorithm overlords this work matters. Supporting &lt;em&gt;The Persistence &lt;/em&gt;means supporting &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; of it: the podcast, the posts, the zine, the whole enchilada.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Send a post or an episode to a friend, a professor, or that cousin who loves debating politics at dinner.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One quick Apple Podcasts review does more than &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; marketing budget I don’t have.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Every coffee, every donation (and paid subscription) &lt;strong&gt;literally&lt;/strong&gt; keeps the mic on and the stories flowing. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Collaborate (let’s dream bigger): &lt;/strong&gt;Educators? Creative? Filmmaker/Podcaster? Org with a mission? Let’s talk.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Follow us on &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/_wearethepersistence/"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wearethepersistence"&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;, and share your thoughts with Angélica by emailing &lt;a target="_blank" href="mailto:wearethepersistence@gmail.com"&gt;wearethepersistence@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Don’t forget to sign up for host Angélica Cordero’s newsletter, &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://obsessivelycurious.substack.com/"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Obsessively Curious&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;!!&lt;/strong&gt; It includes short insights that connect unlikely histories, recommendations, and details about other ways to interact with the show.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Get full access to Obsessively Curious at &lt;a href="https://obsessivelycurious.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&amp;#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4"&gt;obsessivelycurious.substack.com/subscribe&lt;/a&gt;</description>

The Persistence

Angélica Cordero

Episode 16: I See No Changes

APR 24, 202647 MIN
The Persistence

Episode 16: I See No Changes

APR 24, 202647 MIN

Description

<p>The late 1960s were supposed to be proof that things were working.</p><p>Civil rights legislation had passed. The language of progress was everywhere. On paper, it looked like the system had responded.</p><p>But on the ground?</p><p>That story didn’t hold.</p><p>This episode explores the turning point of the 1960s civil rights movement, where protests, policing, and public trust in American institutions began to shift.</p><p>From the Watts uprising to the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr., from student protests and occupations at Columbia University to the Chicano walkouts across the Southwest, from the American Indian Movement and the occupation of Alcatraz to the Stonewall uprising, this wasn’t a series of isolated events.</p><p>It was people adjusting.</p><p>Figuring out what to do when the rules they were told to follow stopped producing the outcomes they were promised.</p><p>And as that shift took hold, something else changed too.</p><p>Protest started getting framed as disruption.Rights became “security.”And policing and state response to dissent began to evolve in real time.</p><p>By the time we get to 1968 and the years just beyond it, what looks like chaos starts to read differently.</p><p>Not as breakdown.</p><p>As recognition.</p><p>This episode covers the history of civil rights, 1960s protest movements, policing in America, and the evolution of state surveillance and counterintelligence.</p><p>This episode was written by and produced by Angélica Cordero, with a little help from ChatGPT. </p><p>Our theme song is <a target="_blank" href="https://fold.bandcamp.com/track/dont-kid-yourself-baby"><em>Don’t Kid Yourself Baby</em></a> by <a target="_blank" href="https://fold.fm/">Fold</a>, used with their blessings. Podcast artwork for <em>The Persistence </em>features Mexican-American activist <a target="_blank" href="https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/jovita-idar">Jovita Idar</a> and was created by Tamra Collins of <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/sunroot.studio/">Sunroot Studio</a>.</p><p>Resources For Fellow Wascally Wabbits</p><p>Books</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://files.libcom.org/files/A%20People%27s%20History%20of%20the%20Unite%20-%20Howard%20Zinn.pdf">A People’s History of the United States</a> by Howard Zinn</p><p>“Chale No, We Won’t Go!” The Chicano Moratorium Committee in <a target="_blank" href="https://muse.jhu.edu/book/25450">“Mi raza primero!” (My People First!): Nationalism, Identity, and Insurgency in the Chicano Movement in Los Angeles, 1966-1978</a> by Ernesto Chávez</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/massacreinmexico00poni/page/n1/mode/2up">Massacre in Mexico</a> by Elena Poniatowska (New York , Viking Press, 1975)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://livecomsjournal.org/plugins/generic/pdfJsViewer/pdf.js/web/viewer.html?file=https%3A%2F%2Flivecomsjournal.org%2Findex.php%2Fhonorsjournal%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F2797%2F1889%2F11031">¡Raza Sí! ¡Guerra No!: The Chicano Movement from South Vietnam to the American Southwest</a> by Dillon Otto, University of Colorado Honors Journal</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/seventiesgreatsh0000schu">Seventies: The Great Shift in American Culture, Society, and Politics</a> by Bruce J. Schulman</p><p>Links</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://guides.loc.gov/latinx-civil-rights/national-chicano-moratorium">“1970: National Chicano Moratorium,”</a> (A Latinx Resource Guide: Civil Rights Cases and Events in the United States, Hispanic, Research Guides, Library of Congress)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.latimes.com/projects/chicano-moratorium/assets/pdf/chicanomoratoriumzinecolor.pdf">“The Chicano Moratorium: 50 Years Later,”</a> (Los Angeles Times, Aug 2020)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://libguides.nypl.org/stonewall50research/exhibits">“Exhibits,”</a> Stonewall 50: A Guide Honoring the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Riots and LGBTQ History, (Research Centers & Library, New York Public Library, Apr 21, 2026)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/flying-flag-upside-down/">“Flying Flag Upside Down,”</a> (Issues, Issues Related to Speech, Press, Assembly, or Petition, Free Speech Center, Middle Tennessee State University, Sep 2025)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://history.state.gov/milestones/1830-1860/indian-treaties">“Indian Treaties and the Removal Act of 1830,”</a> (1830-1860, Milestones, The Office of the Historian)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.tclf.org/sites/default/files/microsites/landslide2024/locations/chicano.html">“National Chicano Moratorium March,”</a> (Locations, Demonstration Grounds)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://library.law.howard.edu/civilrightshistory/lgbtq/stonewall">“The Stonewall Riots,”</a> A Brief History of Civil Rights in the United States: The Stonewall Riots, (Research Guides, Vernon E. Jordon Law Library, Howard University)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-1996-title36/pdf/USCODE-1996-title36-chap10-sec176.pdf">“United States Flag Code (4 U.S.C. Chapter 1),”</a> (Title 36, Chapter 10, Section 176, GovInfo)</p><p>Other</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://houstonpbs.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/e05a1478-ed35-4c6a-abd7-dd66dc5c40bf/the-1968-la-school-walkouts-retro-report/">“The 1968 L.A. School Walkouts,”</a> (Retro Report, Public Broadcast Station)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adpVf6yMlew">“Alcatraz,”</a> (FootageWorld, 1969) </p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/TTIdiPhACXQ1vBhclq2YwKKRHjAzw6">“Chicano,”</a> by J. Gary Mitchell (BFA Educational Media, Archive.org, 1971)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8wzjPuDdZk">“Chicano Moratorium: A Question of Freedom,”</a> (UCLA, 1971)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://openresearch.okstate.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/9c84e1f1-1b2f-42f9-b96d-d3e9c19b714a/content">“Chicano Nationalism: The Brown Berets and Legal Social Control”</a> by Jennifer G. Correa (Oklahoma State University, July 2006)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/Columbia1969">“Columbia Revolt (Part I),”</a> (Newsreel, Archive.org, 1969)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/Columbia1969_2">“Columbia Revolt (Part II),”</a> (Newsreel, Archive.org, 1969)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/kentstatemay1970">"Kent State: May 1970,"</a> (Archive.org, 1972)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kyCdagO3UA&#38;t=1249s">“Movimiento Estudiantil 1968,”</a> (Cine en Línea, Cine Rescatado y Restaurado, Filmoteca de la UNAM, 1968)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB10/nsaebb10.htm">"Tlatelolco Massacre: Declassified U.S. Documents on Mexico and the Events of 1968"</a> by Kate Doyle (National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book, No. 10, The National Security Archive, George Washington University)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OxkX1mOiVU&#38;t=102s">“Watts: Riot or Revolt,”</a> (CBS Reports, American History TV, Dec 1965)</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/RainbowQuest08">“New Lost City Ramblers,”</a> (Episode 8, Pete Seeger’s Rainbow Quest, Archive.org, 1965)</p><p>Support</p><p>It’s free, it’s fast, and it tells the algorithm overlords this work matters. Supporting <em>The Persistence </em>means supporting <em>all</em> of it: the podcast, the posts, the zine, the whole enchilada.</p><p>Send a post or an episode to a friend, a professor, or that cousin who loves debating politics at dinner.</p><p>One quick Apple Podcasts review does more than <strong><em>any</em></strong> marketing budget I don’t have.</p><p>Every coffee, every donation (and paid subscription) <strong>literally</strong> keeps the mic on and the stories flowing. </p><p><strong>Collaborate (let’s dream bigger): </strong>Educators? Creative? Filmmaker/Podcaster? Org with a mission? Let’s talk.</p><p>Follow us on <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/_wearethepersistence/">Instagram</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wearethepersistence">TikTok</a>, and share your thoughts with Angélica by emailing <a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>.</p><p><strong>Don’t forget to sign up for host Angélica Cordero’s newsletter, </strong><a target="_blank" href="https://obsessivelycurious.substack.com/"><strong><em>Obsessively Curious</em></strong></a><strong>!!</strong> It includes short insights that connect unlikely histories, recommendations, and details about other ways to interact with the show.</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Obsessively Curious at <a href="https://obsessivelycurious.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">obsessivelycurious.substack.com/subscribe</a>