<p>Today, the wonderful Emma Kirk-Odunubi is back with us. If you heard her main episode, you’ll know she’s a 15-time marathon runner, coach and all‑round running legend – but today, we’re finding out the three things she simply cannot live without.​ We talk about why the most important part of running might happen when you’re not running at all, why it’s sometimes not just okay but wise to skip a run, and how “forwards is a pace” became Emma’s mantra on and off the road. This is a gorgeous, grounding conversation for anyone who needs permission to slow down, be kinder to themselves, and still call themselves a runner.</p><br><p>BOOKS DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE</p><p>Emma’s book, Find Your Pace, is available from 5th February 2026.</p><br><p>WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU</p><p>Got something to share? Message us on @lifeofbryonypod on Instagram.</p><br><p>If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who might need it – it really helps! Bryony xx</p><br><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Host: Bryony Gordon</p><br><p>Guest: Emma Kirk-Odunubi</p><br><p>Producer: Laura Elwood-Craig</p><br><p>Assistant Producer: Sam Rhodes</p><br><p>Studio Manager: Sam Chisholm</p><br><p>Editor: Luke Shelley</p><br><p>Exec Producer: Jamie East&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>