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                    &lt;p dir="ltr"&gt;Sam sits down with author and marine biologist Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson to explore her inspiring new book, &lt;em&gt;What If We Get It Right?: Visions of Climate Futures&lt;/em&gt;. Dr. Johnson offers a refreshing take on the climate crisis, imagining a future shaped by Hollywood, pop culture, poetry, and joy. Together, they discuss how creativity and optimism can help us reframe environmental challenges and inspire collective action.&lt;/p&gt;
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The Sam Sanders Show

KCRW & Sam Sanders

Pop Culture Can Help the Climate w/ Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

OCT 18, 202453 MIN
The Sam Sanders Show

Pop Culture Can Help the Climate w/ Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

OCT 18, 202453 MIN

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<p dir="ltr">Sam sits down with author and marine biologist Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson to explore her inspiring new book, <em>What If We Get It Right?: Visions of Climate Futures</em>. Dr. Johnson offers a refreshing take on the climate crisis, imagining a future shaped by Hollywood, pop culture, poetry, and joy. Together, they discuss how creativity and optimism can help us reframe environmental challenges and inspire collective action.</p> <p><strong>&nbsp;</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">Sign up for <a href="https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/the-sam-sanders-show">Sam&rsquo;s Newsletter</a> to get behind the scenes stuff from every interview each week.</p> <p><strong>&nbsp;</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">The Sam Sanders show is a production of KCRW and Sam Sanders Productions.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>