Vol.01-为什么将少数民族展带到北京的胡同里来？| 球球王国展

SEP 29, 202460 MIN

Vol.01-为什么将少数民族展带到北京的胡同里来？| 球球王国展

SEP 29, 202460 MIN

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/本期内容/大家好，欢迎来到「可能有书」！「可能有书」是一家坐落在北京东城区东四南大街前炒面胡同的综合阅读空间。店如其名，我们这里除了书，还可能有展览、有咖啡、有包子、有自习室、有小猫元宝和赵四儿……我们希望通过这档播客，来为大家分享在可能有书的各种可能性。第一期播客，我们邀请到了目前在可能有书展厅内在展的「球球王国」展览的艺术家兼策展人——林含，一起来聊聊这个关于少数民族展览的台前幕后：为什么把这个展览起名叫”球球王国“？为什么要在北京办一个少数民族的展览？为什么林含说每个人都应该有一个自己的民族包？在田野调查的路上遇到了什么困难和故事？…… 欢迎收听本期节目来找寻答案。如果你刚好在北京，欢迎来到可能有书的线下空间，跟随林含的的分享，在展厅内一探究竟。 /嘉宾介绍/林含“球球王国”展览策展人北京稻荷草木染工作室主理人目前从事古代植物染色复原以及染缬图案技法研究和创新工作为清华大学染服系、北京服装学院、国家艺术基金项目授课为故宫博物院主持红色复原项目长期项目田野地：大凉山海南贵州云南  /时间轴/00:10 有关「可能有书」的小介绍00:56 本期嘉宾”林含“的个人介绍01:47 林含与可能有书合作的契机02:29 这个展览为什么起名为“球球王国”呢？05:55 展览中为什么有的民族包可售卖，而有些是“非卖品”？07:16 策划这个展览时，构想是什么样子的？08:16 在策展到布展的过程中，遇到了哪些困难？10:36 展览临近时，有没有感觉压力很大？13:54 23天的田野日记为大家都展示了什么？<blockquote style="font-size:14px;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(102, 102, 102);border-left:5px solid rgb(232, 232, 232);padding-left:15px;"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5eb9-audiofreehighqps/0F/F2/GKwRIMAKztTIAAs1qwMXUKQz.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5eb9-audiofreehighqps/0F/F2/GKwRIMAKztTIAAs1qwMXUKQz.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5eb9-audiofreehighqps/0F/F2/GKwRIMAKztTIAAs1qwMXUKQz.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1001.4253135689852" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5eb9-audiofreehighqps/0F/F2/GKwRIMAKztTIAAs1qwMXUKQz.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.9327251995439"> </blockquote>14:52 开展以来，为什么几乎每天都来展厅迎来送往？15:50 在展厅内遇到的比较印象深刻的反馈？17:22 为什么说每个人都应该有一个自己的民族包？<blockquote style="font-size:14px;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(102, 102, 102);border-left:5px solid rgb(232, 232, 232);padding-left:15px;"><img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/7ef0-audiofreehighqps/6F/34/GKwRIaIKztUmAAZFBwMXUM0D.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/7ef0-audiofreehighqps/6F/34/GKwRIaIKztUmAAZFBwMXUM0D.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/7ef0-audiofreehighqps/6F/34/GKwRIaIKztUmAAZFBwMXUM0D.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1002.0000000000001" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/7ef0-audiofreehighqps/6F/34/GKwRIaIKztUmAAZFBwMXUM0D.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="187.04000000000002"></blockquote>19:25 展厅内有趣的民族包——佤族的“猎头包”<blockquote style="font-size:14px;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(102, 102, 102);border-left:5px solid rgb(232, 232, 232);padding-left:15px;"><img data-key="2" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5163-audiofreehighqps/43/33/GAqhig8KztWlAEHWnAMXUP3D.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5163-audiofreehighqps/43/33/GAqhig8KztWlAEHWnAMXUP3D.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5163-audiofreehighqps/43/33/GAqhig8KztWlAEHWnAMXUP3D.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5163-audiofreehighqps/43/33/GAqhig8KztWlAEHWnAMXUP3D.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"> </blockquote>22:56 展厅内有趣的民族包——独一无二的哈尼族“姐妹包”<blockquote style="font-size:14px;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(102, 102, 102);border-left:5px solid rgb(232, 232, 232);padding-left:15px;"><img data-key="3" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1f0b-audiofreehighqps/E0/2E/GKwRIJIKztXEADDbDwMXUQrg.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1f0b-audiofreehighqps/E0/2E/GKwRIJIKztXEADDbDwMXUQrg.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1f0b-audiofreehighqps/E0/2E/GKwRIJIKztXEADDbDwMXUQrg.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1f0b-audiofreehighqps/E0/2E/GKwRIJIKztXEADDbDwMXUQrg.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"><img data-key="4" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fb3c-audiofreehighqps/CA/AB/GAqhAwwKztYcAEFCzQMXUTMd.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fb3c-audiofreehighqps/CA/AB/GAqhAwwKztYcAEFCzQMXUTMd.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fb3c-audiofreehighqps/CA/AB/GAqhAwwKztYcAEFCzQMXUTMd.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fb3c-audiofreehighqps/CA/AB/GAqhAwwKztYcAEFCzQMXUTMd.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"> </blockquote>24:58 展厅内有趣的民族包——德昂族博物馆珍贵的展品<blockquote style="font-size:14px;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(102, 102, 102);border-left:5px solid rgb(232, 232, 232);padding-left:15px;"><img data-key="5" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2876-audiofreehighqps/C8/4D/GAqhm44KztY7ADuCugMXUUND.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2876-audiofreehighqps/C8/4D/GAqhm44KztY7ADuCugMXUUND.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2876-audiofreehighqps/C8/4D/GAqhm44KztY7ADuCugMXUUND.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2876-audiofreehighqps/C8/4D/GAqhm44KztY7ADuCugMXUUND.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"><img data-key="6" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/13fa-audiofreehighqps/10/2F/GAqh3wsKztZTACRnngMXUVI9.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/13fa-audiofreehighqps/10/2F/GAqh3wsKztZTACRnngMXUVI9.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/13fa-audiofreehighqps/10/2F/GAqh3wsKztZTACRnngMXUVI9.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/13fa-audiofreehighqps/10/2F/GAqh3wsKztZTACRnngMXUVI9.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"> </blockquote>27:52 林含给民族包的有趣分类——“吵包”<blockquote style="font-size:14px;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(102, 102, 102);border-left:5px solid rgb(232, 232, 232);padding-left:15px;"><img data-key="7" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1393-audiofreehighqps/9D/A4/GKwRIW4KztaHAEA2rQMXUWu3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1393-audiofreehighqps/9D/A4/GKwRIW4KztaHAEA2rQMXUWu3.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1393-audiofreehighqps/9D/A4/GKwRIW4KztaHAEA2rQMXUWu3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/1393-audiofreehighqps/9D/A4/GKwRIW4KztaHAEA2rQMXUWu3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"><img data-key="8" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8faf-audiofreehighqps/BA/15/GAqhm44KztabAEPUnQMXUXb4.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8faf-audiofreehighqps/BA/15/GAqhm44KztabAEPUnQMXUXb4.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8faf-audiofreehighqps/BA/15/GAqhm44KztabAEPUnQMXUXb4.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8faf-audiofreehighqps/BA/15/GAqhm44KztabAEPUnQMXUXb4.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"> </blockquote>29:53 林含给民族包的有趣分类——“丑包”31:59 民族包中不同的纹样所代表的不同意义35:06 “收包”是一条非常艰辛的道路37:13 “洗包”也是必要一环38:05 少数民族日常除了背民族包，还背什么包？40:01 化学染面料对少数民族来说比手工染面料更珍贵41:09 已经消失的手艺：用粽叶编织的包包<blockquote style="font-size:14px;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(102, 102, 102);border-left:5px solid rgb(232, 232, 232);padding-left:15px;"><img data-key="9" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3649-audiofreehighqps/20/50/GAqhgbgKztbCADo5VgMXUY5O.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3649-audiofreehighqps/20/50/GAqhgbgKztbCADo5VgMXUY5O.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3649-audiofreehighqps/20/50/GAqhgbgKztbCADo5VgMXUY5O.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3649-audiofreehighqps/20/50/GAqhgbgKztbCADo5VgMXUY5O.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"></blockquote>42:56 林含现在和云南嬢嬢们的一些合作项目43:41 每年的田野调查作为林含补充自己的养分<blockquote style="font-size:14px;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(102, 102, 102);border-left:5px solid rgb(232, 232, 232);padding-left:15px;"><img data-key="10" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0aa1-audiofreehighqps/EA/DC/GKwRIW4Kztb_AAEsMQMXUanj.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0aa1-audiofreehighqps/EA/DC/GKwRIW4Kztb_AAEsMQMXUanj.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0aa1-audiofreehighqps/EA/DC/GKwRIW4Kztb_AAEsMQMXUanj.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.7340823970037" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0aa1-audiofreehighqps/EA/DC/GKwRIW4Kztb_AAEsMQMXUanj.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105.04369538077403"></blockquote>44:44 田野调查中遇到的印象深刻的事情47:33 为什么选择了“佤族”、“哈尼族”和“基诺族”作为主要展示？<blockquote style="font-size:14px;margin:10px 0px;color:rgb(102, 102, 102);border-left:5px solid rgb(232, 232, 232);padding-left:15px;"><img data-key="11" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ef52-audiofreehighqps/32/E0/GKwRIUEKztoEAAkEWgMXUumZ.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ef52-audiofreehighqps/32/E0/GKwRIUEKztoEAAkEWgMXUumZ.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ef52-audiofreehighqps/32/E0/GKwRIUEKztoEAAkEWgMXUumZ.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1002.7881040892194" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/ef52-audiofreehighqps/32/E0/GKwRIUEKztoEAAkEWgMXUumZ.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="187.18711276332095"> </blockquote>49:06 田野调查需要客观地按照少数民族所处的语境去记录50:01 每年除了田野调查外的其他工作内容有什么？50:56 关于《布尽其用》这本书和这个项目52:26 林含曾为故宫博物院主持红色复原项目55:15 如果给大家安利这个展览，林含会怎么给大家介绍？56:23 【普鲁斯特问卷】随机问答：56:45 1-你认为自己最伟大的成就是什么？57:08 2-你最珍惜的财产是什么？58:01 3-如果你能选择的话，你希望让什么重现？59:04 欢迎大家订阅、收听可能有书 /书籍介绍/《布尽其用》<img data-key="12" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/70fe-audiofreehighqps/01/94/GKwRIW4KztN6AAqQ5gMXUBg8.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/70fe-audiofreehighqps/01/94/GKwRIW4KztN6AAqQ5gMXUBg8.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/70fe-audiofreehighqps/01/94/GKwRIW4KztN6AAqQ5gMXUBg8.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1006.788665879575" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/70fe-audiofreehighqps/01/94/GKwRIW4KztN6AAqQ5gMXUBg8.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="187.93388429752068"> <img data-key="13" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3732-audiofreehighqps/B8/1E/GAqhjg0KztOEAAfYOAMXUB0X.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3732-audiofreehighqps/B8/1E/GAqhjg0KztOEAAfYOAMXUB0X.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3732-audiofreehighqps/B8/1E/GAqhjg0KztOEAAfYOAMXUB0X.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1000.309023485785" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3732-audiofreehighqps/B8/1E/GAqhjg0KztOEAAfYOAMXUB0X.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" 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