Vol.03-不要在这个世界看见你之前，就先自己否定自己｜皮皮猫meow专访

NOV 29, 2024118 MIN

Vol.03-不要在这个世界看见你之前，就先自己否定自己｜皮皮猫meow专访

NOV 29, 2024118 MIN

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/本期内容/大家好，欢迎来到「可能有书」！ 「可能有书」是一家坐落在北京东城区东四南大街前炒面胡同的综合阅读空间。店如其名，我们这里除了书，还可能有展览、有咖啡、有包子、有自习室、有小猫元宝和赵四儿…… 我们希望通过这档播客，来为大家分享在可能有书的各种可能性。 ———————————— �本期播客，我们邀请到了新书《我爱每场属于你的大雨》的作者、漫画家皮皮猫meow。 ● 11月2日，皮皮猫老师带着她的新书来到可能有书，和大家分享了这本书诞生的故事。 分享会之后，因为被她的故事所打动，我们希望通过播客的形式，让更多人了解皮皮猫和她的第一本漫画集。 皮皮猫像她笔下的漫画一样，明媚、自然、给人温暖，拥有治愈的力量。 当然，她也大方承认自己的孤独，在一个重男轻女的家庭长大，长成家里人希望的模样，而后慢慢觉醒，开始“反抗”。 她看见、听见了自己。虽然成长付出的代价可能有点儿大，但是她成为了她自己。 “蓝天做屋顶，群山做围墙，月亮做灯光，草地做小床。每个人都是风景，世界住进我的心房。我做我的故乡和远方，走出门去，每个伤口都是出口。” 欢迎各位收听本期节目，了解你不曾知道的有关皮皮猫的故事。 ps：本期会不定时听到“轰隆隆”的声音，那是地铁正在办公室下边路过……还请谅解…… /嘉宾介绍/皮皮猫meow00后漫画家、野生街头艺人《我爱每场属于你的大雨》作者 /时间轴/00:10 简单介绍下「可能有书」01:06 本期嘉宾：漫画家 皮皮猫02:39 《我爱每场属于你的大雨》这是一本怎样的书？03:17 “皮皮猫”这个名字的由来是什么？03:54 皮皮猫和可能有书合作的契机06:00 为何开启豆本书的创作？ <img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/aa96-audiofreehighqps/C5/66/GKwRIaILH3GjAAj_uwM38-ZP.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/aa96-audiofreehighqps/C5/66/GKwRIaILH3GjAAj_uwM38-ZP.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/aa96-audiofreehighqps/C5/66/GKwRIaILH3GjAAj_uwM38-ZP.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="520.84601339014" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/aa96-audiofreehighqps/C5/66/GKwRIaILH3GjAAj_uwM38-ZP.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="97.22458916615948"> 08:48 ”阅读是随身携带的避难所“11:27 为什么第一本书的书名叫《我爱每场属于你的大雨》？<img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0efe-audiofreehighqps/9D/68/GKwRINsLH3IjAARacQM39IE5.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0efe-audiofreehighqps/9D/68/GKwRINsLH3IjAARacQM39IE5.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0efe-audiofreehighqps/9D/68/GKwRINsLH3IjAARacQM39IE5.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1000" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0efe-audiofreehighqps/9D/68/GKwRINsLH3IjAARacQM39IE5.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.66666666666666"> 15:16 真的会有人喜欢下雨天么？17:36 生活中是否有一场大雨曾让你感到开心？ 21:41 朋友会因为书名引用了你给她写的信而开心吗？23:14 为什么想用小猫来表达自己？25:01 皮皮猫大一插画课拿了非常糟糕的分数25:27 大二图形设计课再次拿起了画笔，重拾了信心老师：“你不要在这个世界看见你之前，就先自己否定自己。”27:16 在黑暗压抑的生活中，寻找日常生活中容易被忽略的微小的存在，想要创造更多明媚的画面<img data-key="2" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2a0a-audiofreehighqps/17/4D/GKwRIJELH3ilAByOHQM3-FLJ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2a0a-audiofreehighqps/17/4D/GKwRIJELH3ilAByOHQM3-FLJ.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2a0a-audiofreehighqps/17/4D/GKwRIJELH3ilAByOHQM3-FLJ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1000" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2a0a-audiofreehighqps/17/4D/GKwRIJELH3ilAByOHQM3-FLJ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.66666666666666">31:46 为什么会创造关于“毛的故事”这种女性身体认可故事？34:18 “毛的故事”源于和前任的一次约会，开启了第一次的女性意识觉醒<img data-key="3" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8154-audiofreehighqps/0E/20/GAqhqKwLH3K2AAl6RgM39PEI.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8154-audiofreehighqps/0E/20/GAqhqKwLH3K2AAl6RgM39PEI.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8154-audiofreehighqps/0E/20/GAqhqKwLH3K2AAl6RgM39PEI.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="523.0080296479308" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8154-audiofreehighqps/0E/20/GAqhqKwLH3K2AAl6RgM39PEI.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="97.62816553428043"> 36:17 真正进入女性意识思考源于分手后剪的寸头<img data-key="4" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/9a62-audiofreehighqps/65/B9/GAqhntALH3LOAClv9AM39Pxw.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/9a62-audiofreehighqps/65/B9/GAqhntALH3LOAClv9AM39Pxw.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/9a62-audiofreehighqps/65/B9/GAqhntALH3LOAClv9AM39Pxw.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/9a62-audiofreehighqps/65/B9/GAqhntALH3LOAClv9AM39Pxw.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"> 42:11 “胸的故事”画完后得到了很多的反馈45:01 现在在个人穿搭上是否有什么变化？51:05 书里面皮皮猫最喜欢的故事是……？53:11 决定写“胸的故事”的契机57:18 编撰目录时犹豫要不要把“胸的故事”放在第一篇59:39 书籍封面是如何来设计和选择的？1:02:14 新书出版后，收到了哪些印象深刻的读者反馈？<第一场分享在：先锋鉴湖书店><img data-key="5" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2eb9-audiofreehighqps/93/5C/GAqhqKwLH3OjAEIImgM39XWh.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2eb9-audiofreehighqps/93/5C/GAqhqKwLH3OjAEIImgM39XWh.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2eb9-audiofreehighqps/93/5C/GAqhqKwLH3OjAEIImgM39XWh.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2eb9-audiofreehighqps/93/5C/GAqhqKwLH3OjAEIImgM39XWh.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"> <第二场分享在：可能有书><img data-key="6" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/61c8-audiofreehighqps/E8/6A/GAqhUz8LH3P4AEoxcgM39aJZ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/61c8-audiofreehighqps/E8/6A/GAqhUz8LH3P4AEoxcgM39aJZ.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/61c8-audiofreehighqps/E8/6A/GAqhUz8LH3P4AEoxcgM39aJZ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/61c8-audiofreehighqps/E8/6A/GAqhUz8LH3P4AEoxcgM39aJZ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"> <第三次分享在：另一个书屋><img data-key="7" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8af5-audiofreehighqps/02/88/GKwRIJILH3QVACKQ-AM39bGV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8af5-audiofreehighqps/02/88/GKwRIJILH3QVACKQ-AM39bGV.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8af5-audiofreehighqps/02/88/GKwRIJILH3QVACKQ-AM39bGV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="421.94183062446535" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/8af5-audiofreehighqps/02/88/GKwRIJILH3QVACKQ-AM39bGV.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="78.7624750499002"> 1:05:08 这本书适合作为礼物送给困境之中的女性朋友1:09:04 为什么新书分享会起名为“我做我的故乡和远方”？1:10:07为了专心创作、准备新书出版，决定先休学一年，却被困在了没有窗户的房间和与家人产生矛盾的争执中。1:16:20 “世界住进我的心房，我做我的故乡和远方”1:21:13 如果未来分享会还要分享这段痛苦的经历，会让你很难受么？1:22:58 你认为拥有一间只属于自己的房间很重要么？<img data-key="8" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2555-audiofreehighqps/8A/A7/GKwRIUELH3YkACMPJgM39twa.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2555-audiofreehighqps/8A/A7/GKwRIUELH3YkACMPJgM39twa.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2555-audiofreehighqps/8A/A7/GKwRIUELH3YkACMPJgM39twa.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="500.067349137931" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2555-audiofreehighqps/8A/A7/GKwRIUELH3YkACMPJgM39twa.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.34590517241378"> 1:33:34 接下来的新书分享会有什么计划？1:34:06 成为街头艺人的契机是什么？<img data-key="9" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/22e4-audiofreehighqps/34/BA/GKwRIJILH3ToADNAaQM39it1.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/22e4-audiofreehighqps/34/BA/GKwRIJILH3ToADNAaQM39it1.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/22e4-audiofreehighqps/34/BA/GKwRIJILH3ToADNAaQM39it1.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="499.93266900080795" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/22e4-audiofreehighqps/34/BA/GKwRIJILH3ToADNAaQM39it1.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.32076488015082"> 1:38:16 街头摆摊遇到了什么趣事？<img data-key="10" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/9f66-audiofreehighqps/44/8B/GKwRIW4LH3WNAC6cbgM39oks.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/9f66-audiofreehighqps/44/8B/GKwRIW4LH3WNAC6cbgM39oks.png?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/9f66-audiofreehighqps/44/8B/GKwRIW4LH3WNAC6cbgM39oks.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="428.5961671669361" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/9f66-audiofreehighqps/44/8B/GKwRIW4LH3WNAC6cbgM39oks.png!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="80.0046178711614"> 1:41:01 目前这样的生活方式打算维持多久？1:42:57 除了画画以外还有什么兴趣爱好么？1:43:53 如何坚持创作的？平日的灵感从何而来？1:48:03 最终决定研究生退学的原因1:54:03 目前的收入来源是如何构成的？1:54:42 想对读者说的话<img data-key="11" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0191-audiofreehighqps/42/B5/GKwRIUELH3jGACc9ggM3-Gg_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0191-audiofreehighqps/42/B5/GKwRIUELH3jGACc9ggM3-Gg_.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0191-audiofreehighqps/42/B5/GKwRIUELH3jGACc9ggM3-Gg_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/0191-audiofreehighqps/42/B5/GKwRIUELH3jGACc9ggM3-Gg_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"> 1:55:09 如果给陌生人种草《我爱每场属于你的大雨》，你该如何介绍？1:56:17 【普鲁斯特问卷】随机问答：① 你最希望拥有哪种才华？② 你最恐惧的是什么？③ 你最珍惜的财产是什么？1:58:21 欢迎大家订阅、收听可能有书 “祝你看见自己、听见自己、不麻木、不顺从、去爱、去反抗、你是自己的故乡和远方。“ /书籍介绍/《我爱每场属于你的大雨》皮皮猫meow<img data-key="12" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2239-audiofreehighqps/88/49/GAqhqKwLH3Z7AAVZDgM39wrR.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2239-audiofreehighqps/88/49/GAqhqKwLH3Z7AAVZDgM39wrR.jpg?op_type=0" 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