How do you keep a separation between journalism and marketing when writing about a niche? Rowan can help you with that, like she did at Rascal for tabletop roleplaying games.   "I graduated high school into Donald Trump's election and then I graduated college into the pandemic. Every major life milestone that I've had has been disrupted by some big unprecedented event. And I'm like, all right, well, I guess everything's gonna burn. So I might as well build something up from the ashes while it's burning. So that way when everything else is gone, I have something."   <a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "https://bsky.app/profile/rowanzeoli.bsky.social"> Rowan Zeoli</a> is the co-founder of <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.rascal.news/"> Rascal</a>, an independent, worker-owned outlet for journalism about tabletop roleplaying games and the people who make them. Rowan covers the intersection of progressive thought and niche cultural movements, which you can find in outlets like Polygon, Tripsitter, Autostraddle, and The Fandomentals. She is also co-founder of the convention/non-profit WriteHive.   Credits - Hosts: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://twitter.com/El_Silvero/"> Eric Silver</a> & <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://twitter.com/shessomickey"> Amanda McLoughlin</a> - Producer: Brandon Grugle - Editor: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.mischastanton.com/"> Mischa Stanton</a> - Graphic Designer: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.shaemcmullin.com/"> Shae McMullin</a> - A <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://multitude.productions"> Multitude</a> production   About The Show Interviews with online creators about how their jobs work and how they got there. Hear the personal stories behind seismic events in digital media and learn what concrete steps we can take to build a sustainable media landscape. Hosted by longtime podcasters and business owners Eric Silver and Amanda McLoughlin, Attach Your Résumé proves that the best credential for deciding the future of media is actually making stuff. New episodes every Thursday until we run out of episodes and have to go make more.

<description>&lt;p id="docs-internal-guid-22cd01ec-7fff-3275-f9b9-d28e462e6bfe" dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; How do you keep a separation between journalism and marketing when writing about a niche? Rowan can help you with that, like she did at Rascal for tabletop roleplaying games.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; "I graduated high school into Donald Trump's election and then I graduated college into the pandemic. Every major life milestone that I've had has been disrupted by some big unprecedented event. And I'm like, all right, well, I guess everything's gonna burn. So I might as well build something up from the ashes while it's burning. So that way when everything else is gone, I have something."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt;&lt;a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "https://bsky.app/profile/rowanzeoli.bsky.social"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Rowan Zeoli&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; is the co-founder of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.rascal.news/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Rascal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;, an independent, worker-owned outlet for journalism about tabletop roleplaying games and the people who make them. Rowan covers the intersection of progressive thought and niche cultural movements, which you can find in outlets like&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Polygon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Tripsitter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Autostraddle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;, and&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; The Fandomentals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;. She is also co-founder of the convention/non-profit WriteHive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: bold; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Credits&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Hosts:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://twitter.com/El_Silvero/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Eric Silver&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; &amp;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://twitter.com/shessomickey"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Amanda McLoughlin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Producer: Brandon Grugle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Editor:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.mischastanton.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Mischa Stanton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Graphic Designer:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.shaemcmullin.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Shae McMullin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - A&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://multitude.productions"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Multitude&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; production&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; 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Hear the personal stories behind seismic events in digital media and learn what concrete steps we can take to build a sustainable media landscape. Hosted by longtime podcasters and business owners Eric Silver and Amanda McLoughlin,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Attach Your Résumé&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; proves that the best credential for deciding the future of media is actually making stuff. New episodes every Thursday until we run out of episodes and have to go make more.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

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Want to make a living online without being tied to platforms? Jack Conte and Patreon are trying to help you with that.   This is the first of our CEO interview series, where our CEO sits down with others to talk about the practicalities of running a business in the creator economy.   The thing that's changed the most is the web has increasingly put, I think, negative pressure on artistry and boldly being yourself. It's hard to do that now. It's so much pressure. And I think that has sort of been antithetical to what it means to be a true artist. And so I've just found myself using the term artist more and art more over the last year or two, because I want to remind myself of why I got into this in the first place as a creative person.   Jack Conte is the CEO of Patreon, and half of the bands Pomplamoose and Scary Pockets.   Credits - Hosts: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://twitter.com/El_Silvero/"> Eric Silver</a> & <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://twitter.com/shessomickey"> Amanda McLoughlin</a> - Producer: Brandon Grugle - Editor: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.mischastanton.com/"> Mischa Stanton</a> - Graphic Designer: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.shaemcmullin.com/"> Shae McMullin</a> - A <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://multitude.productions"> Multitude</a> production   About The Show Interviews with online creators about how their jobs work and how they got there. Hear the personal stories behind seismic events in digital media and learn what concrete steps we can take to build a sustainable media landscape. Hosted by longtime podcasters and business owners Eric Silver and Amanda McLoughlin, Attach Your Résumé proves that the best credential for deciding the future of media is actually making stuff. New episodes every Thursday until we run out of episodes and have to go make more.

<description>&lt;p id="docs-internal-guid-487c8bf2-7fff-08d4-7064-2c8da549647b" dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Want to make a living online without being tied to platforms? Jack Conte and Patreon are trying to help you with that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; This is the first of our CEO interview series, where our CEO sits down with others to talk about the practicalities of running a business in the creator economy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; The thing that's changed the most is the web has increasingly put, I think, negative pressure on artistry and boldly being yourself. It's hard to do that now. It's so much pressure. And I think that has sort of been antithetical to what it means to be a true artist. And so I've just found myself using the term artist more and art more over the last year or two, because I want to remind myself of why I got into this in the first place as a creative person.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Jack Conte is the CEO of Patreon, and half of the bands Pomplamoose and Scary Pockets.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: bold; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Credits&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Hosts:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://twitter.com/El_Silvero/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Eric Silver&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; &amp;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://twitter.com/shessomickey"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Amanda McLoughlin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Producer: Brandon Grugle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Editor:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.mischastanton.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Mischa Stanton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Graphic Designer:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.shaemcmullin.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Shae McMullin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - A&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://multitude.productions"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; 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font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Interviews with online creators about how their jobs work and how they got there. Hear the personal stories behind seismic events in digital media and learn what concrete steps we can take to build a sustainable media landscape. Hosted by longtime podcasters and business owners Eric Silver and Amanda McLoughlin,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Attach Your Résumé&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; proves that the best credential for deciding the future of media is actually making stuff. New episodes every Thursday until we run out of episodes and have to go make more.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

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What do you do when you don’t feel valued by your job when you’re doing really good work? Taylor can help you with that.   "Nobody respects you unless you're willing to leave. If [employers] get the sense that you're not willing to leave and you bluff it even once, they'll call your bluff. If you say, 'I'm gonna quit, give me this or I'll quit,' you have to be 110% willing to quit… But if you just let them walk all over you, then they'll never respect you because they'll know that they can get anything that they want."   Taylor Lorenz is the founder of <a style= "text-decoration: none;" href="http://usermag.co"> UserMag.co</a>, a tech and online culture newsletter, and author of <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.amazon.com/Extremely-Online-Untold-Influence-Internet/dp/1982146869"> Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet</a>. Previously, she was a technology columnist at The Washington Post and a technology reporter for The New York Times and The Atlantic. Her writing has appeared in New York magazine, Rolling Stone, the Daily Beast, Marie Claire, Fast Company, and countless other outlets.   Credits - Hosts: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://twitter.com/El_Silvero/"> Eric Silver</a> & <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://twitter.com/shessomickey"> Amanda McLoughlin</a> - Producer: Brandon Grugle - Editor: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.mischastanton.com/"> Mischa Stanton</a> - Graphic Designer: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.shaemcmullin.com/"> Shae McMullin</a> - A <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://multitude.productions"> Multitude</a> production   About The Show Interviews with online creators about how their jobs work and how they got there. Hear the personal stories behind seismic events in digital media and learn what concrete steps we can take to build a sustainable media landscape. Hosted by longtime podcasters and business owners Eric Silver and Amanda McLoughlin, Attach Your Résumé proves that the best credential for deciding the future of media is actually making stuff. New episodes every Thursday until we run out of episodes and have to go make more.

<description>&lt;p id="docs-internal-guid-78c56687-7fff-05c7-0969-4ce7f3f7e4f9" dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; What do you do when you don’t feel valued by your job when you’re doing really good work? Taylor can help you with that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; "Nobody respects you unless you're willing to leave. If [employers] get the sense that you're not willing to leave and you bluff it even once, they'll call your bluff. If you say, 'I'm gonna quit, give me this or I'll quit,' you have to be 110% willing to quit… But if you just let them walk all over you, then they'll never respect you because they'll know that they can get anything that they want."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Taylor Lorenz is the founder of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style= "text-decoration: none;" href="http://usermag.co"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; UserMag.co&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;, a tech and online culture newsletter, and author of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.amazon.com/Extremely-Online-Untold-Influence-Internet/dp/1982146869"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Extremely Online: The Untold Story of Fame, Influence, and Power on the Internet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;. Previously, she was a technology columnist at The Washington Post and a technology reporter for The New York Times and The Atlantic. Her writing has appeared in New York magazine, Rolling Stone, the Daily Beast, Marie Claire, Fast Company, and countless other outlets.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: bold; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Credits&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Hosts:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://twitter.com/El_Silvero/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Eric Silver&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; &amp;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://twitter.com/shessomickey"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Amanda McLoughlin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Producer: Brandon Grugle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Editor:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.mischastanton.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Mischa Stanton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Graphic Designer:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.shaemcmullin.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Shae McMullin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - A&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://multitude.productions"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Multitude&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; production&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: bold; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; About The Show&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Interviews with online creators about how their jobs work and how they got there. Hear the personal stories behind seismic events in digital media and learn what concrete steps we can take to build a sustainable media landscape. Hosted by longtime podcasters and business owners Eric Silver and Amanda McLoughlin,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Attach Your Résumé&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; proves that the best credential for deciding the future of media is actually making stuff. New episodes every Thursday until we run out of episodes and have to go make more.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

What do you do when you don’t feel valued by your job when you’re doing really good work? Taylor can help you with that.     "Nobody respects you unless you're willing to leave. If [employers] get the sense that you're not willing to leave...

Taylor Lorenz Was Willing to Quit, So You Can Too!

What do you do when you break out of your small creative niche and are getting scrutinized by your fandom for that? Lauren can help you with that.   “Somebody asked me on Tumblr the other day if I had any advice for how to become a successful and profitable creator. I was like, Why are you asking me?… I've worked very hard to be a person that people associate with audio drama when they think about audio drama, but I'm not profitable. I'm still struggling to get budgets for the shows that I want to make. I still have to take a million different jobs all the time to support my life. I'm certainly doing a lot better than I was at 24 when I started The Bright Sessions, but I don't know what being a profitable creator looks like.”   Lauren Shippen is a writer and director best known for her work in fiction podcasts. She is the creator and sole writer of <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.thebrightsessions.com/"> The Bright Sessions</a>, and the writer of <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/7aTEmK0Vvwa5L4ZKBsmPyJ?si=e606972ffa844050&nd=1&dlsi=8d912f5697b84747"> Bridgewater</a> and <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/2TevVBfS0JReKn1MMeNkv2?si=1a820a5a7a5b4a58&nd=1&dlsi=6049c01bc6e04b24"> Passenger List</a>. She also wrote <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/3FHDexESyV0wMrJYpZ3Dhe?si=9467e3f8655e4353&nd=1&dlsi=2b8c7e8033fb4a9a"> MARVELS</a>, an audio adaptation of the popular comic, and <a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/35RCCwJP6fZj4nVp6EfNy0?si=8d6f085f8b474d41&nd=1&dlsi=1850a0cf5b3442ec"> Surviving Hawkins</a>, a Stranger Things podcast. Her current originals are <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.atypicalartists.co/maxine"> Maxine Miles</a>, a choose-your-own-path mystery for young adults, <a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.atypicalartists.co/newyearsday"> New Year's Day</a>, a yearly drama, and <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.atypicalartists.co/breaker-year-1"> Breaker Whiskey</a>, an ongoing daily podcast about shouting into the void at the end of the world. She has written three novels with Tor Teen.   Credits - Hosts: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://twitter.com/El_Silvero/"> Eric Silver</a> & <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://twitter.com/shessomickey"> Amanda McLoughlin</a> - Producer: Brandon Grugle - Editor: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.mischastanton.com/"> Mischa Stanton</a> - Graphic Designer: <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.shaemcmullin.com/"> Shae McMullin</a> - A <a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://multitude.productions"> Multitude</a> production   About The Show Interviews with online creators about how their jobs work and how they got there. Hear the personal stories behind seismic events in digital media and learn what concrete steps we can take to build a sustainable media landscape. Hosted by longtime podcasters and business owners Eric Silver and Amanda McLoughlin, Attach Your Résumé proves that the best credential for deciding the future of media is actually making stuff. New episodes every Thursday until we run out of episodes and have to go make more.

<description>&lt;p id="docs-internal-guid-b56a2b21-7fff-0021-fbb2-b890945094a5" dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; What do you do when you break out of your small creative niche and are getting scrutinized by your fandom for that? Lauren can help you with that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; “Somebody asked me on Tumblr the other day if I had any advice for how to become a successful and profitable creator. I was like, Why are you asking me?… I've worked very hard to be a person that people associate with audio drama when they think about audio drama, but I'm not profitable. I'm still struggling to get budgets for the shows that I want to make. I still have to take a million different jobs all the time to support my life. I'm certainly doing a lot better than I was at 24 when I started The Bright Sessions, but I don't know what being a profitable creator looks like.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Lauren Shippen is a writer and director best known for her work in fiction podcasts. She is the creator and sole writer of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.thebrightsessions.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; The Bright Sessions&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;, and the writer of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/7aTEmK0Vvwa5L4ZKBsmPyJ?si=e606972ffa844050&amp;nd=1&amp;dlsi=8d912f5697b84747"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Bridgewater&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; and&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/2TevVBfS0JReKn1MMeNkv2?si=1a820a5a7a5b4a58&amp;nd=1&amp;dlsi=6049c01bc6e04b24"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Passenger List&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;. She also wrote&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/3FHDexESyV0wMrJYpZ3Dhe?si=9467e3f8655e4353&amp;nd=1&amp;dlsi=2b8c7e8033fb4a9a"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; MARVELS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;, an audio adaptation of the popular comic, and&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/35RCCwJP6fZj4nVp6EfNy0?si=8d6f085f8b474d41&amp;nd=1&amp;dlsi=1850a0cf5b3442ec"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Surviving Hawkins&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;, a Stranger Things podcast. Her current originals are&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.atypicalartists.co/maxine"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Maxine Miles&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;, a choose-your-own-path mystery for young adults,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.atypicalartists.co/newyearsday"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; New Year's Day&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;, a yearly drama, and&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.atypicalartists.co/breaker-year-1"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Breaker Whiskey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;, an ongoing daily podcast about shouting into the void at the end of the world. She has written three novels with Tor Teen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: bold; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Credits&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Hosts:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://twitter.com/El_Silvero/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Eric Silver&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; &amp;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://twitter.com/shessomickey"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Amanda McLoughlin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Producer: Brandon Grugle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Editor:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.mischastanton.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Mischa Stanton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Graphic Designer:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.shaemcmullin.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Shae McMullin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; 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<description>&lt;p id="docs-internal-guid-226f9e29-7fff-f8fd-6180-6d6ebb945e66" dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Do you want to know what it was like to work inside BuzzFeed at the height of its power? Ryan can help you with that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; “Digital media was the problem. It wasn't the job. Like the burnout I felt as a journalist was not because I didn't like being a journalist. It was because the structure I was in sucked ass run by sickos. And now it's like, it's nice. Like turns out that even on a bad news day, like this week, it was still fine.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt;&lt;a style= "text-decoration: none;" href= "https://x.com/broderick"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Ryan Broderick&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; is the writer of&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.garbageday.email/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Garbage Day&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;, a Webby Award-winning newsletter about the Internet, and the host of the new podcast&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/panic-world/id1740187810"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Panic World&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt;. He reported for BuzzFeed from 2012 to 2020, and has also worked at Vice, Gawker, and the Awl.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: bold; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Credits&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Hosts:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://twitter.com/El_Silvero/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Eric Silver&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; &amp;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://twitter.com/shessomickey"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Amanda McLoughlin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Producer: Brandon Grugle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Editor:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.mischastanton.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Mischa Stanton&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - Graphic Designer:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "https://www.shaemcmullin.com/"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Shae McMullin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; - A&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a style="text-decoration: none;" href= "http://multitude.productions"&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #1155cc; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: underline; -webkit-text-decoration-skip: none; text-decoration-skip-ink: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Multitude&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; production&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p dir="ltr" style= "line-height: 1.5; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;"&gt; &lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: bold; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; About The Show&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style= "font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #000000; background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"&gt; Interviews with online creators about how their jobs work and how they got there. 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