The Art Of Imperfect Adulting
The Art Of Imperfect Adulting

The Art Of Imperfect Adulting

Amy Stone

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The Art of Imperfect Adulting is a podcast and streaming YouTube show for anyone who has ever looked at their own face peering back at them from a Zoom screen and thought: how did I get here, and what do I want to do next? This show is for you if life has taken a turn you didn't plan for and you're still working out what it means. Maybe it's a divorce that rewrote the story you thought you were living, or a health struggle including chronic illness, weight changes, or menopause that shifted everything. It could be a rapid unplanned professional shift like getting fired, laid off, or finally admitting that the corporate grind isn't compatible with the life you actually want. Perhaps your insomnia comes from worrying that you chose the wrong degree, didn't get the job, or that the path you were so sure about went somewhere you didn't intend. Or maybe you feel a sense of drowning in a caregiving season that is quietly consuming you like quicksand, whether you're showing up for a parent, a child, a spouse, or a sibling. It could be a sneaky adulting decision that feels like it should be easier, like choosing a school or curriculum for your kids that is keeping you up at night. Perhaps your Google search history is full of questions about how to move to a place that finally feels more like you, or how to stop putting down roots altogether and see what a life in motion actually looks like. If you've ever felt behind, off-script, or quietly wondering if you're the only one who finds this hard, you're not. This show exists to give you proof that change is possible, to be company for your journey, and offer the quiet relief that comes with being connected to like-minded people. We all know that real life doesn't come with an instruction manual. We also know that our real lives don't match the highlight reels we see on the red carpet or in our social media feeds. In a world where billions of bits of manufactured and altered information deluge us every day, the raw and honest stories of, “how did she do that?” are a welcome breath of fresh air. Each episode features honest conversations with guests sharing the choices and changes that shaped who they became, from unconventional career moves and unexpected reinventions to rebuilding after loss and choosing happiness on their own terms. These are not pitch decks, academic hypotheticals, or celebrity biopics. These are real accounts from real people who've been in the middle of it and stopped to share what they wish somebody had told them when they needed it most. What listeners come away with isn't a checklist, a hack or even a strategy. It's something harder to manufacture: a feeling that you’re not alone, a little more confidence in your own choices, and the quiet sense of belonging that comes from hearing someone else say out loud what you've been thinking. Your host is Amy Stone, a Gen X woman who knows what it means to be overlooked, underestimated, surprised by the impact of both small decisions and sudden life shifts, and expected to just figure it out. It turns out that might be exactly the right training for hosting a show about choices and change. She brings warmth, zero pretense, and a talent for drawing out the quiet turning points that rarely make it into anyone's highlight reel. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and be sure to join the email community at https://www.imperfectadulting.com

Recent Episodes

Leaving Teaching for a Media Career in Midlife with Tiphany Kane
JUN 18, 2026
Leaving Teaching for a Media Career in Midlife with Tiphany Kane
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Tiphany Kane about embracing passion and reinvention in adulthood. Joining the conversation from sunny Southern California, Tiphany shares her journey of escaping a restrictive upbringing, redefining her career path from teacher to media company co-owner, and why true opportunity lies in leaning into your authentic self. Listeners will hear how Tiphany navigated being told she was "too passionate," faced institutional barriers, and ultimately found empowerment and possibility through podcasting, entrepreneurship, and letting go of sunk costs.About Tiphany Kane:Tiphany Kane, M.Ed., is the CEO & co-founder of KaSa Media Productions, Executive Director of Sonic Bloom Podcast Awards, Public Speaker, Award-winning Podcast, Video, & Live Events Producer who brings her passion for the art of the spoken word to people who have a powerful story to tell. She is also a member of the AIVA (Academy of Interactive & Visual Arts) and serves as an AIVA juror. Tiphany is building Just 4 Feet Studio, a 5,500 sq ft state-of-the-art Dolby Atmos recording & post-production studio in Orange County, CA.Main Topics Covered:Overcoming the limitations of a high-control, patriarchal upbringing and embracing education and independenceNavigating career transitions: from passionate teacher, to frustrated administrator, to dynamic entrepreneurThe impact of being labeled "too passionate" in the workplace, and how that informed Tiphany’s decisions and self-worthAddressing inequity in education, especially for gifted and talented programs and underrepresented studentsThe power (and reality) of using podcasting and independent media to reinvent your life and build confidence—not just incomeDealing with sunk cost fallacy and fear in career changes—what to let go and how to trust your evolving journeyWomen’s opportunities and challenges in independent media in the age of AI, gatekeepers, and authenticityThe nuanced truth about following your passion, accepting “not a good fit,” and the value of creating your own pathQuote from the Episode:"This is something I really like about myself. This is something I’d like to lean into more. I am so sick and tired of feeling like I have to hide who I am to show up in a world where I’m showing up in the way they say I should show up. It’s exhausting. And I’m done with it." — Tiphany KaneTimestamps:00:00 - Amy welcomes Tiphany 01:13 - Tiphany’s upbringing, expectations as a woman, and experience with high-control religion03:04 - Discovering dinosaurs, geology, and leaving behind misinformation04:34 - Path to teaching: resisting gender expectations, working in sales during 9/11, the pivot06:46 - Loving teaching, working with gifted children, asynchronous development, and personal connections09:51 - Going back to school, financial logistics, pursuing a teaching internship and credentialing hurdles12:14 - Not getting the dream job, learning you can request a debrief, and hearing “too passionate” as feedback13:24 - Processing being “too much” and realizing it was time to make a change20:00 - Designing an exit plan for alignment; accepting when you and a system are not a good fit22:08 - Podcasting as a catalyst for reinvention: what starting a show actually gave Tiphany26:34 - Letting go of sunk cost fallacy, grieving lost paths, and building new ones32:13 - Missing the classroom, but embracing entrepreneurship and the risks involved33:31 - The necessity of independent, authentic media for women in an era of AI and misinformation37:25 - Tiphany’s current business, working with brands like Z Gallerie, and adapting to uncertainty41:32 - Book and podcast recommendations: "When Women Were Dragons" and Pod Save America44:09 - On cold plunges, health advice, and why universal solutions don’t exist49:06 - Empathy, advice-giving, and supporting people in difficult situations52:04ABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://kasamediapro.com/TIPHANY’S SHOW: Shut up and Listen to Her https://www.youtube.com/live/e5LeCJT_Ctw?si=j9Dz4G6KevOExw3v If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
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Moving to Mexico for Six Months as a Pattern Interrupt with Brenda Florida
JUN 16, 2026
Moving to Mexico for Six Months as a Pattern Interrupt with Brenda Florida
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Brenda Florida about choosing radical change as a tool for personal transformation. Based in Southern California, Brenda shares her experience of putting her life in storage, temporarily moving to Playa del Carmen, Mexico, and intentionally disrupting her routine in search of growth. Listeners will hear how Brenda used a six-month international relocation. This was not an escape, but as a catalyst to break deep-seated patterns, confront internalized beliefs around work, money, and identity, and ultimately emerge with a renewed sense of purpose.About Brenda Florida:Brenda is a certified life coach with over eight years of experience helping hundreds of clients break patterns that no longer serve them — like people-pleasing, guilt, overgiving, and overfunctioning. Her work focuses on pattern interruption at the identity level, helping people recognize the subconscious dynamics driving their decisions and consciously choose a new response. This includes ambitious women navigating major life and career shifts — retirement, reinvention, stepping away from leadership — and redefining who they are in their next chapter. Brenda’s approach is practical, direct, and grounded in real-time change — not theory, but lived experience.Main Topics Covered:How intentional relocation can catalyze deep personal transformationThe logistics and realities of being a digital nomad: minimalism, storage decisions, and AirbnbsDisrupting internalized patterns around work, money, and gender rolesNavigating loneliness and self-reflection during a “cocooning” season abroadOvercoming expectations: why outward adventure became a journey inwardThe challenges (and comedic realities) of living abroad without speaking the local languagePractical support tools for reinventing yourself later in lifeThe importance of reframing discomfort and uncertainty as growth opportunitiesQuote from the Episode:“It was very much a cocooning time for me...the whole six months ended up being so internally transformative. I was spending all my energy on myself... It totally changes the chatter—you’re not absorbing that noise from your regular environment. It leaves you to yourself in a different way.” — Brenda FloridaTimestamps:[00:00:00] Introduction to Brenda Florida and episode overview[00:01:05] Planning the Mexico move—timing, storage, logistics[00:03:28] Why Playa del Carmen? Geography, practicality, digital nomad research[00:05:16] The need to disrupt patterns: burnout, business plateau, and personal stasis[00:09:56] Family and friends’ reactions to taking a big risk[00:14:22] What she was trying to shake up—specific patterns and old beliefs[00:18:32] Approaches to “pattern interruption” before moving and why relocation was different[00:20:12] Living in Mexico with limited Spanish; daily challenges and language barriers[00:25:00] Adapting to new systems: grocery stores, finding familiar products, and reliance on tech[00:29:55] Socializing, expat communities, and why Brenda chose solitude[00:32:23] Dealing with environmental factors (like sargassum) and shifting expectations[00:35:13] The rooftop pool, redefining “beach” joy, and embracing what works[00:36:18] What she thought would happen vs. what actually transformed[00:37:36] The retreat analogy: why changing environment unlocks new insights[00:41:08] Mindful living: what daily “friction” reveals about subconscious beliefs[00:44:33] Unpacking deep conditioning around work, pay, and gender[00:47:11] Observing patterns, subconscious behaviors, and the reality of change[00:51:53] Would transformation have happened without the big move?[00:53:03] Third act reinvention and Brenda’s new offer for women[00:59:02] Favorite source of entertainment and closing fun questions[01:00:40] Cocktail talk: cultural differences and favorites[01:02:43] Wrap up and how listeners can connect with Brenda[01:03:16] Community reminders and final thoughtsABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.brendaflorida.comBRENDA’S SHOW: Why Do I Keep Doing That? https://feed.podbean.com/whydoikeepdoingthat/feed.xmlGET BRENDA'S SPECIAL OFFER:The Third Act Reset:A private guided audio and companion worksheet designed for ambitious women navigating identity shifts — retirement, career exits, reinvention, or stepping into a new chapter. Normally $47 but free for the audience of The Art of Imperfect AdultingUse this unique link: brenda-florida-coaching-jgbb8n.subscribepage.ioNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
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65 MIN
Building a Business with Your Sister with Amy and Nancy Harrington
JUN 11, 2026
Building a Business with Your Sister with Amy and Nancy Harrington
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Amy and Nancy Harrington about the journey of building a values-driven business and community as sisters. Based in Los Angeles, California, but originally from Boston, the Harringtons reveal the inside story of launching The Passionistas Project, their mission-driven platform that uplifts women, especially those from marginalized communities. The conversation explores sisterhood, trust, and practical strategies for sustainable business partnership, offering inspiration for entrepreneurs eager to foster authentic connections in today’s rapidly-changing world.About Amy and Nancy Harrington:Sisters and business partners Amy and Nancy Harrington are the Co-Founders of The Passionistas Project Sisterhood, a global community for passion-driven women — especially from marginalized backgrounds — to find support, purpose, and empowerment. After leaving high-powered careers in Hollywood, where Amy worked on major films like Harry Potter and The Matrix, and Nancy created Academy Award campaigns, they now use their platform to uplift others. Through their Power of Passionistas Women’s summit, podcast, “Awakening Your Power” book series, and online global community, they foster connection, growth, and equality — rooted in sisterhood values like loyalty, empathy, and joy.Main Topics Covered:Creating and scaling a women’s empowerment community—from podcasting to global sisterhoodTransitioning from high-powered entertainment industry roles to entrepreneurshipStructuring a business with a sibling: navigating trust, corporate governance, and decision-makingThe importance of amplifying stories from women in marginalized communities and those outside the celebrity spotlightThe impact of authentic, vulnerable connection—online and (increasingly) in-personStrategies for business partnership: conflict management, profit sharing, and protecting each other and the companyHow The Passionistas Project supports women in business, personal transformation, and social impactThe evolving meaning of community—why it matters and how to nurture it todayTimestamps:00:00 Show opens: Amy Stone introduces Amy & Nancy Harrington, The Passionistas, and the episode’s dual audio/video format01:06 Where the Harringtons call home: LA by way of Braintree, MA02:48 The sisters’ impressive entertainment industry careers—Warner Bros, Matlock, Miramax, and more03:47 Forming a business partnership in 2003: why and how06:10 What sparked The Passionistas Project: navigating a patriarchal industry, supporting women in the MeToo movement, and elevating unheard voices10:16 The case for spotlighting ordinary women rather than celebrities12:25 Barriers women face—funding, equality, and isolation—and The Passionistas Project’s solution15:26 Why build a business as sisters? Trust, shared vision, and their unique approach16:45 Handling disagreements, business structure, and the “royal we”26:45 What The Passionistas Project is, and who it serves: solopreneurs, changemakers, marginalized voices28:35 Empowerment in practice: from community to podcast network, workshops, and publishing36:40 How needs have shifted: online and in-person connection in a post-Covid world41:01 Where to find The Passionistas Project and a special free journal offer42:02 The sisters share memories and rapid-fire final questions46:08 Closing notes, how to join the community, and the philosophy behind Imperfect AdultingABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations. Music written and produced by Todd Thompson at Dharma Bomb Studios.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: https://www.thepassionistasproject.com/ The Passionistas Project Podcast — https://feeds.megaphone.fm/CCLUC7621196190If you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
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48 MIN
Solo Female Travel and Building Community with Liz Rivas
JUN 9, 2026
Solo Female Travel and Building Community with Liz Rivas
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Liz Rivas about rediscovering self-worth and resilience after the collapse of a long-term relationship—one that ended with a dramatic wedding weekend in the Dominican Republic. Based in vibrant Miami, Florida, [Speaker B] shares how moving through heartbreak spurred her year-long solo travel adventure to 12 countries and inspired her to create a new kind of supportive community for women. Listeners will learn about the real emotional aftermath of addiction in relationships, the liberating (and challenging) nature of solo travel, and how intentional sisterhood can be an antidote to loneliness and self-doubt.About Liz Rivas:Liz Rivas is the founder of RoamCircle, a global women-first community platform helping women find authentic friendships and meaningful connection wherever they roam. After rebuilding her life through solo travel across 12 countries, Liz transformed her personal journey into a purpose-driven business that now connects a growing network of over 50,000 women worldwide. Through RoamCircle, she creates safe, intentional spaces for travelers, expats, digital nomads, and women seeking deeper community in their own cities. Liz is passionate about empowering women to choose themselves, trust their instincts, and build lives rooted in connection and belonging.Main Topics Covered:Navigating the end of a relationship marked by addiction, and the emotional impact of an unraveled wedding (07:03).The difference between the fantasy of a wedding and the true reality and demands of marriage—and what it means to lose oneself in pursuit of a life milestone (08:01).Recognizing and breaking the cycle of codependency, caretaking, and anxiety as a partner to someone struggling with substance abuse (15:19).Using travel as a tool for healing, self-discovery, and building self-trust; why solo travel is a radical act of self-reliance (23:21).The challenges and growth that come from managing loneliness, making micro-decisions daily, and cultivating new routines as a digital nomad (23:34).The importance of platonic, supportive, and safe women’s communities during times of change, and how sisterhood can be more healing than romantic entanglements (26:02).How Liz identified a gap in community for solo female travelers and built Roam Circle, an app that connects women seeking authentic relationships and support globally (28:04).Tips for making authentic connections in a digital world and why representation, inclusivity, and intentional curation matter in building community (34:53).Quote from the Episode:"One thing about solo travel, that it is a radical act of self-reliance... you’re making millions of micro-decisions every day... and all these micro-decisions that you’re making make bigger decisions a lot easier. It makes it a lot easier for you to make choices and to trust yourself and not...ruminating on the what-ifs." — Speaker BTimestamps:00:00 Introduction; both host and guest based in Miami01:16 Why [Speaker B] loves living on the water in Miami02:04 Wedding disaster story; end of a five-year relationship03:31 Addiction, relapse, and unraveling at the altar06:28 Deciding to start fresh and move out13:02 Realization of getting lost in the fantasy, generational patterns15:19 Codependency, hyper-vigilance, and emotional burnout as a caretaker18:48 Travel as healing; transitioning to digital nomad life22:14 List of countries visited and blending work with travel23:21 Sitting with loneliness, embracing uncertainty, building confidence26:02 Sisterhood over dating apps; the unique power of female community28:30 Identifying a need and building Roam Circle34:53 Creating authentic, inclusive digital connections and lessons from Miami42:17 Roam Circle’s story, name origin, and rapid launch45:06 The app-building process: failures, scams, and finding the right developer47:07 Fun questions: magical creatures, style preferences, and travel advice49:10 Wrap-up and how to connect with the show and Roam CircleABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: Elizabeth Rivas https://roamcircle.app/GET SPECIAL OFFER: RoamCircle App – Women’s Global Friendship & Community PlatformDownload RoamCircle on the Apple App Store or Google Play Store and create a free account.Website: https://roamcircle.appNote from the show: Guest offers are almost always limited-time and limited quantity. If you have any trouble redeeming the offer please reach out directly to the guest for support.Join the conversation on social. Find the Art of Imperfect Adulting on Instagram @theartof_imperfect_adulting YouTube @imperfectadulting and TikTok @imperfectadultingNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! As a subscriber, you'll receive notifications about new episodes, exclusive offers from our amazing guests, and easier access to any of the important links mentioned on the show—no more scrambling to write down websites or remember special codes.Why subscribe?Stay up-to-date without checking your podcast appGet guest offers delivered straight to your inboxAccess all important links in one convenient placeCatch the highlights even when you don't have time to listenAre you ready? Join us at https://www.imperfectadulting.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestHere are a few resources that Amy uses to make all this great content. These are affiliate links :-)For livestreaming and recording ECamm https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/?fp_ref=amy69Podcast hosting and distribution: Captivate FM https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=ntczmwi Website hosting with Siteground https://www.siteground.com/?referrer_id=9115590Ai Transcription Tool: Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/ugrmjjrt8ofjFor Email I recently switched to Beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com?via=Amy-Stonebefore that I used Kit. Books I like and books written by show guests on Bookshop.org https://bookshop.org/lists/podcast-guest-authors
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51 MIN
Lived Experience Facing Genetic Diagnosis with Mindy Uhrlaub
JUN 4, 2026
Lived Experience Facing Genetic Diagnosis with Mindy Uhrlaub
If you love the show and you'd like to support it directly you can tip the host here https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/supportIn this episode of The Art of Imperfect Adulting, Amy Stone speaks with Mindy Uhrlaub about living with the shadow of ALS (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis), also known as Lou Gehrig’s Disease. Based in Marin County, California, Mindy shares her family legacy of ALS, navigating life as a genetic carrier, and the complexities of caregiving for multiple family members while raising children. This deeply personal conversation explores not just illness and loss, but resilience, advocacy, and the evolution from creative professional to patient rights activist. Listeners will learn about genetic ALS, the realities of the Sandwich Generation, and how storytelling shapes healing and community.About Mindy Uhrlaub:Mindy Uhrlaub is a carrier of the fatal C9orf7 genetic mutation. She participates in twenty longitudinal studies of ALS and has testified before the FDA and the NIH about medical rights of genetic carriers. Mindy was nominated onto a committee at the National Academy of Science to write the 2024 report, Living with ALS. Her latest book, Last Nerve: A Memoir of Illness and the Endurance of Family, won the 2025 Nonfiction Book Award. For her ALS advocacy, Uhrlaub also received awards from the Les Turner ALS Foundation, ALS TDI, and the ALS Network.Main Topics Covered:The reality of growing up in a family with ALS: genetic risk, diagnosis, and evolving medical understanding.Mindy’s experience as both a caregiver for her husband (twice diagnosed with lymphoma) and her mother (diagnosed with ALS).What it means to be part of the Sandwich Generation—balancing care for children and aging parents, and why it’s different today than for previous generations.The transformation from creative writer and musician to ALS activist: how advocacy work and community organizing emerged from crisis.Coping strategies for simultaneous, overlapping life crises—parenting, spousal illness, parental illness, and grief.The need for better support systems and recognition for caregivers, especially mothers in midlife.The importance of telling authentic stories about ordinary adults facing extraordinary challenges—and why Mindy wrote her memoir, Last Nerve.Raising awareness about ALS: statistics, misconceptions, and the urgent need for research and community support.Quote from the Episode:"I just think that if you find out something horrible, then, you know, that there's something to do about it. But if you're just worried that something horrible might happen, then you're kind of just like Woody Allen, like, fluttering your hands and being like, oy vey, this might happen... So it's like, if you throw down the gauntlet and face the thing, the chances are you're gonna win, but if you ignore the thing, then you're gonna lose." — Mindy UhrlaubTimestamps:00:04 Amy welcomes Mindy and introduces the episode’s focus on living with ALS00:53 Mindy shares about living in Marin County and what she loves about her community01:28 The family legacy of ALS and first awareness of the disease02:58 Mindy’s mother’s ALS diagnosis and the challenge of multi-generational illness03:50 Undergoing genetic testing and learning her own ALS carrier status05:48 Mindy describes her life at the time of her mother’s diagnosis—parenting, caregiving, and stress07:47 The complexities of being in the Sandwich Generation14:27 Why being a caregiver today is different than for past generations17:51 On not feeling prepared for dual caregiving roles and the compounding nature of life crises22:18 Mindy’s journey from musician and creative writer to activist and ALS community organizer25:55 Mindy’s advocacy in Congo and how those experiences shaped her activism for ALS29:08 The impetus for writing Last Nerve and recognizing her own hero’s journey32:00 Building community for genetic ALS carriers and confronting the medical system33:40 Why Mindy believes her book is for anyone facing insurmountable midlife challenges—not just ALS families37:46 Mindy’s message about ALS, public awareness, and why it’s not a “rare” disease38:44 Final lightning round: favorite first album, concert merch, and “curling curious”41:40 Amy’s show outro and special offer details for listeners to get a signed copy of Mindy’s memoirABOUT THE SHOW: The Art of Imperfect Adulting elevates the voices of experience by sharing real stories from real people figuring out adult life. Every episode features honest conversations about life's choices, changes, and challenges—interviews with individuals (not celebrities) who share their personal experiences and insights. Through these authentic stories, listeners find validation, motivation, and inspiration for navigating their own path through modern life. Because there's a big difference between expert advice and shared experience, and hearing another person's lived experience helps us feel less alone in our own situations.CONNECT WITH THE GUEST: www.mindyuhrlaub.comIf you have a story to share and you'd like to be a guest on The Art of Imperfect Adulting, here are the steps for how you can make that happen. Pitch yourself at https://www.imperfectadulting.com/be-a-guestNever Miss a Moment of Imperfect AdultingWe invite you to join our email community and let us bring the podcast directly to you! 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