In this episode, Rob sits down with Colleen Joyce, CEO of Lawyer.com, to talk about how she grew a premium domain into a thriving legal marketplace with 150 employees — all without venture capital. Colleen shares her journey from finding an internship in the newspaper classifieds to running a company that connects thousands of consumers with lawyers every month. Along the way, they dig into scrappy marketing, the privacy challenges unique to legal services, vibe coding with her 6-year-old daughter, and why treating every day like a startup keeps the team hungry.Guest BioColleen Joyce is the CEO of Lawyer.com, a legal services marketplace that helps consumers find attorneys while offering law firms directory listings and call intake services. She started as an intern at the parent company World.com and built Lawyer.com from the ground up beginning in 2012. Colleen also publishes The Fast Five, a weekly newsletter on LinkedIn covering business, culture, and inspiration.Key Topics CoveredThe origin of Lawyer.com — How parent company World.com acquired class-A domains like lawyer.com, doctor.com, and others in the 1990s through its mail.com vanity email serviceBuilding a business on a premium domain — Going from a blank landing page and directory in 2012 to a 150-person operation with organic growth and no outside fundingThe double-sided marketplace model — Free consumer-facing lawyer search on one side, paid directory listings and call center services for law firms on the otherMarketing in a privacy-sensitive industry — Why legal services don't lend themselves to social media reviews and how Lawyer.com leans into B2B brand culture insteadAI as a tool, not a replacement — How the team uses AI across tech, call intake, and internal operations to move fasterVibe coding for fun — Using Lovable to build spelling test games with her daughter and running "Vibe Fridays" with the teamSuper Bowl ad strategy — Why a single big ad spend isn't always worth it and what brands like Coinbase and Dunkin' get rightStartup mentality at scale — Open office, no red tape, fast failure, and a culture where anyone can pitch ideas regardless of tenureColleen's path from intern to CEO — Starting with classifieds, writing for Popstar.com, learning to hire and manage for the first time, and earning the CEO titleLeadership philosophy — Leading by example, embracing failure, and keeping fun as a core valueNotable Quotes"If you're not using AI, forget about it. You're going to be replaced by people who are using AI.""Every single day we treat this place as a startup.""It's okay to fail. Do it quick and don't do it again.""The minute work becomes not fun, I have a conversation with myself."Connect with Colleen JoyceWebsite: Lawyer.comInstagram: @ColleenJoyce1LinkedIn: Colleen Joyce — subscribe to The Fast Five weekly newsletter