In this episode of How We Made Your Mother, Josh and Craig are joined by longtime HIMYM writer and producer Kourtney Kang to break down Season 1, Episode 4: “Return of the Shirt.” Together, they explore the emotional roots of the story—from the awkwardness of rekindling old relationships to the anxiety of breaking up with someone (twice, on their birthday, at a surprise party). They also highlight how this episode marks a turning point for Robin as a comedic character and showcases one of the earliest examples of the show’s signature blend of heart and absurdity. Plus, the real story behind the sock monkey, the birth of the “ineffable” joke, and why Belle and Sebastian helped define the HIMYM vibe.

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Alek’s “Dead Fathers Society” on Substack

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02:18 Writer's Journey and Personal Growth
06:06 The Complexity of Relationships
10:48 The Role of the Shirt in the Episode
18:29 The Dynamics of Ted and Robin
27:13 The Writer's Room Experience
35:14 The Art of Comedy and Writing
40:45 The Journey of a TV Writer
44:00 The Magic of Sock Monkeys and Montages
49:23 Memorable Moments from the Shoot
 
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How We Made Your Mother

Audacy & Josh Radnor and Craig Thomas

How We Returned a Shirt | S1E4 “Return of the Shirt”

APR 14, 202566 MIN
How We Made Your Mother

How We Returned a Shirt | S1E4 “Return of the Shirt”

APR 14, 202566 MIN

Description

In this episode of How We Made Your Mother, Josh and Craig are joined by longtime HIMYM writer and producer Kourtney Kang to break down Season 1, Episode 4: “Return of the Shirt.” Together, they explore the emotional roots of the story—from the awkwardness of rekindling old relationships to the anxiety of breaking up with someone (twice, on their birthday, at a surprise party). They also highlight how this episode marks a turning point for Robin as a comedic character and showcases one of the earliest examples of the show’s signature blend of heart and absurdity. Plus, the real story behind the sock monkey, the birth of the “ineffable” joke, and why Belle and Sebastian helped define the HIMYM vibe.


CONNECT WITH THE SHOW:


Official Website (Send us your audio and written messages)

Substack (Join the mailing list, get announcements, and read more from Josh and Craig)

Instagram


HOW YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE:


Donate to our ongoing campaign to support congenital heart disease research


AND MORE:


Josh’s “Museletters” on Substack

Josh’s Official Website

Josh on Spotify

Craig’s Official Website (with links to his published writing)

Alek’s “Dead Fathers Society” on Substack


THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS:


Betterhelp: How We Made Your Mother is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/yourmother


Quince: Get free shipping and 365-day returns at https://quince.com/yourmother


Advertising inquiries:

[email protected]


AND IN CASE IT HELPS:


02:18 Writer's Journey and Personal Growth

06:06 The Complexity of Relationships

10:48 The Role of the Shirt in the Episode

18:29 The Dynamics of Ted and Robin

27:13 The Writer's Room Experience

35:14 The Art of Comedy and Writing

40:45 The Journey of a TV Writer

44:00 The Magic of Sock Monkeys and Montages

49:23 Memorable Moments from the Shoot

To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices