<p>When intelligence becomes abundant, what happens to humanity’s purpose?</p><p><br></p><p>Andy Mills, the co-founder of The New York Times’ The Daily and creator of The Last Invention, joins us on this episode of Digital Disruption.</p><p><br></p><p>Andy is a reporter, editor, podcast producer, and co-founder of Longview. His most recent series, The Last Invention, explores the AI revolution, from Alan Turing’s early ideas to today’s fierce debates between accelerationists, doomers, and those focused on building the technology safely. Before that, he co-created The Daily at The New York Times and produced acclaimed documentary series including Rabbit Hole, Caliphate, and The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling. A former fundamentalist Christian from Louisiana and Illinois, Andy now champions curiosity, skepticism, and the transformative power of listening to people with different perspectives, values that shape his award-winning journalism across politics, terrorism, culture wars, technology, and science. </p><p><br></p><p>Andy sits down with Geoff to break down the real debate shaping the future of AI. From the “doomers” warning of existential risk to the accelerationists racing toward AGI, Andy maps out the three major AI camps influencing policy, economics, and the future of human intelligence. This conversation explores why some researchers fear AGI, why others believe it will save humanity, how job loss and automation could reshape society, and why 2025 is becoming an “AI 101 moment” for the public. Andy also shares what he’s learned after years investigating OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI, and the people behind the AGI race. </p><p><br></p><p>If you want clarity on AGI, existential risk, the future of work, and what it all means for humanity, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode:</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>01:00 The three camps of AI: doom, acceleration, scouts</p><p>05:00 Why skeptics aren’t driving the AI debate</p><p>07:00 Job loss, productivity &amp; “good” vs. “bad” disruption</p><p>09:00 Existential risk &amp; why scientists are sounding alarms</p><p>12:00 The origins of doomers and accelerationists</p><p>17:00 How AI debates escalated after ChatGPT</p><p>22:00 Why 2025 is an AI “101 moment” for the public</p><p>24:00 The tech stack wars: OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI</p><p>28:00 Why leaders joined the AI race</p><p>30:00 The accelerationist mindset</p><p>33:00 Contrarians, symbolists &amp; the forgotten history of AI</p><p>39:00 Big Tech, branding &amp; why AI CEOs avoid open conflict</p><p>42:00 The closed group chats of AI’s elite builders</p><p>46:00 Sci-Fi narratives vs. real-world intelligence risks</p><p>52:00 The AI bubble &amp; why adoption is unlike any tech before</p><p>01:00:00 Are we entering a wright-brothers-to-moon-landing era?</p><p>01:10:00 What AGI means for capitalism, work &amp; purpose</p><p>01:18:00 Why public debate needs to start now</p><p>01:20:00 What happens next</p><p><br></p><p>Connect with Andy:</p><p>Website: https://www.andymills.work/about</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Visit our website: https://www.infotech.com/?utm_source=youtube&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_campaign=podcast</p><p>Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfoTechRG</p>