<description>&lt;p&gt;The Bulwark's Tim Miller joins the podcast to discuss being a leading figure in the Never Trump movement, the growth of The Bulwark and how Donald Trump is starting to make the mistake of a normal politician. Plus, Tim shares what it's like spending time with the Turning Point crowd and which Democrats could actually reach young men.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;0:00 Intro&lt;br&gt;2:30 Miller's Media Diet&lt;br&gt;4:34 How Miller Came To Elevate The Bulwark&lt;br&gt;10:34 How To Understand The Trump Origin Story&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;16:12 Who Really Benefits From Trump's Success&lt;br&gt;26:03 How Do Democrats Win Nationally&lt;br&gt;34:05 Did Covid Turn Democrats Into The Establishment?&lt;br&gt;40:59 Miller's Relationship With Charlie Kirk &amp;amp; Turning Point USA&lt;br&gt;46:17 The Left's Inability To Engage Young People&lt;br&gt;52:00 Is The Theo Von Voter Up For Grabs?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;**BOOK ALERT** Preorder Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Pre-order your copy: &lt;a href="https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom"&gt;https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Email: &lt;a href="mailto:TIGNPod@gmail.com"&gt;TIGNPod@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Substack: Gavinnewsom&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;See &lt;a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener"&gt;omnystudio.com/listener&lt;/a&gt; for privacy information.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

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And, This Is How Trump Loses His Base with Tim Miller of The Bulwark

DEC 12, 202562 MIN
This is Gavin Newsom

And, This Is How Trump Loses His Base with Tim Miller of The Bulwark

DEC 12, 202562 MIN

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The Bulwark's Tim Miller joins the podcast to discuss being a leading figure in the Never Trump movement, the growth of The Bulwark and how Donald Trump is starting to make the mistake of a normal politician. Plus, Tim shares what it's like spending time with the Turning Point crowd and which Democrats could actually reach young men.


0:00 Intro
2:30 Miller's Media Diet
4:34 How Miller Came To Elevate The Bulwark
10:34 How To Understand The Trump Origin Story 
16:12 Who Really Benefits From Trump's Success
26:03 How Do Democrats Win Nationally
34:05 Did Covid Turn Democrats Into The Establishment?
40:59 Miller's Relationship With Charlie Kirk & Turning Point USA
46:17 The Left's Inability To Engage Young People
52:00 Is The Theo Von Voter Up For Grabs?

 

 

 

**BOOK ALERT** Preorder Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. 

Pre-order your copy: https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom

Email: [email protected]

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