<p>A Minipod recap of Joe's conversation with Darryl Cooper, host of the "Martyr Made" podcast.</p><p>If you enjoy the recap, we encourage you to dive into the JRE episode for the full ~3 hour conversation:</p><p>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2289-darryl-cooper/id360084272?i=1000699065980</p>