Sabotage is back this week to share an episode from another climate podcast we love, called What If We Get It Right? Each week, its host, Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, and her expert guests explore how we can create a liveable future here on Earth.  And in this episode, she has a thought-provoking conversation with Ryan Gellert. He’s the CEO of Patagonia, where she’s also a board member, and they get into a question that feels more relevant than ever: What could happen if corporations do business differently — and prioritize protecting the planet as much as earning a profit? You might know Ayana from her New York Times bestselling book, What If We Get it Right?: Visions of Climate Futures – which just came out in an updated paperback edition.  To celebrate, Ayana is throwing Climate Dance Parties at aquariums, natural history museums, and botanical gardens across the country. If you make it to one, let us know how it is.  And until then, you can check out more episodes of What If We Get It Right? — available wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices