In this episode of Outlaws, Kate and Shayla sit down with Hollywood talent manager Rob Marsala—a former Perth lawyer who walked away from a traditional legal career to build a life in the entertainment industry. Rob shares his unconventional journey from law school (which he admits he never really wanted to attend) to the mailroom at a major talent agency in Los Angeles—earning just $300 a week despite holding a law degree and an MBA. What follows is a story of persistence, humility, and backing yourself—even when it means starting from the very bottom. In today’s episode we cover: Why Rob chose law (hint: it wasn’t passion) The moment he realised legal practice wasn’t for him Getting retrenched—and why it was the best thing that ever happened Moving to New York and completing an MBA in media management Starting over in Hollywood’s mailroom at 26 The reality of “paying your dues” in a competitive industry How legal skills became a surprising advantage in entertainment If you loved this episode... Share it with a friend who’s wanting a change (or just needs permission to do the thing!). Rate and review Outlaws on Apple Podcasts or Spotify — it helps more Outlaws find us Find out more Website: www.outlawspodcast.com Subscribe to our newsletter for updates, tools, and more Outlawbrary picks Connect with us Instagram: @the.outlaws.podcast - https://www.instagram.com/the.outlaws.podcast Facebook Group: Outlaws Podcast Community - https://www.facebook.com/groups/the.outlaws.podcast LinkedIn: Outlaws Podcast - https://www.linkedin.com/company/106681587 Email: [email protected] Hosted and produced by Shayla Strapps and Kate Offer