What if your side hustle wasn’t about making money, but about becoming more of yourself? In this Outlaws After Dark episode, Kate and Shayla are joined by Sandrine Alexandre-Hughes, a lawyer and mum of three who built a creative side hustle while working full time, not to chase millions, but to explore something her legal career simply couldn’t offer. After hearing devastating stories about online grooming and bullying, Sandrine felt compelled to act. Instead of approaching the problem with fear or lectures, she asked a different question: if the problem is dark, does the solution have to be? That question led to All the Likes, a card game that teaches online safety through play, followed by Smoke, Mirrors and Filters, a conversation game about our digital habits and the conversations we avoid. What followed wasn’t overnight success or financial freedom. It was exposure to creativity, manufacturing, education, media, and whole new worlds that sit well outside the legal profession. This episode is an honest look at starting a side hustle without quitting your job, and what can open up when you stop overthinking and start making.  In this episode Building a side hustle while working full time, without a grand plan or exit strategy Why Sandrine never saw herself as creative, and how the creative process surprised her The reality of starting a creative side hustle from scratch, sketches, designers, manufacturing, and learning as you go How legal training both helped and hindered her ability to create Why not all side hustles are meant to become businesses, and why that’s okay Marketing, visibility, and the parts of a side hustle that are far less glamorous Why boredom, rest, and stepping away often unlock the best ideas Practical advice for starting a side hustle without quitting your job, including one small first step 🔧 Resources & Links Team Together Online, Sandrine’s company focused on healthier online lives All the Likes, a card game teaching online safety through play Smoke, Mirrors and Filters, a conversation card game about digital habits Australia’s eSafety Commissioner, online safety resources for families If you loved this episode... Share it with a friend who’s wanting a change (or just needs permission to do the thing!). Rate and review Outlaws on Apple Podcasts or Spotify — it helps more Outlaws find us Find out more Website: www.outlawspodcast.com Subscribe to our newsletter for updates, tools, and more Outlawbrary picks Connect with us Instagram: @the.outlaws.podcast - https://www.instagram.com/the.outlaws.podcast Facebook Group: Outlaws Podcast Community - https://www.facebook.com/groups/the.outlaws.podcast LinkedIn: Outlaws Podcast - https://www.linkedin.com/company/106681587 Email: [email protected] Hosted and produced by Shayla Strapps and Kate Offer