The Testament of Ann Lee is up for discussion on our first episode of season 2. Directed by Mona Fastvold (The World to Come, The Brutalist), the movie tells the story of Ann Lee, the leader of a Shaker group that journeyed to the American colonies in the 18th century. Heather talks to Caroline Johnson, whose research on the Shakers reveals what's historically accurate and what's not. More importantly, they discuss what this film has to say about female religious experience and the body. Caroline Johnson is the author of the scholarly article “The Reinterpretation of the Round Shaker Barn How Patriarchal Values Changed the Doctrine, History, and Architecture of a Religion," published by the journal AWE. She teaches in the Comparative Arts & Letters department at BYU and is also the co-director of JKR Gallery in Provo.