In this episode of Real Crime with Adam Shand, Adam sits down with Father Peter Norden — the former Catholic chaplain of Melbourne’s notorious Pentridge Prison and one of the most trusted figures inside Australia’s criminal underworld. From the brutality of the infamous H Division, Norden offers a rare, first-hand account of life behind the bluestone walls. He speaks candidly about prison violence, institutional abuse and how harsh punishment often turned petty offenders into hardened criminals — all while building trust with some of the most feared men in the system.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.