<p>We sat down with Dan Wang, author of the bestselling <a href="https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/465161/breakneck-by-wang-dan/9780241729175" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer"><em>Breakneck</em></a>, to talk about China and what an "engineering state" is in the longer developmental-state tradition. </p><p>We also talked about the Soviet Union and electric vehicles. </p><p>Hope you enjoy the episode</p>
