<p>Bret and Nirmal are joined by Laura Tacho, CTO at DX and long-time friend of the show, to discuss AI usage and success in teams adopting AI and Agents to generate code and perform tasks.</p><p></p><p>🙌 The Agentic DevOps Guild has launched! It's a training + community + mentorship program for engineers wanting to learn the latest CI/CD automation and dive into Agentic DevOps. Meetups are happening now, with new course videos dropping every few weeks. Join the Guild and become your team's leader in AI for infrastructure automation <a href="https://www.bretfisher.com/theguild">https://www.bretfisher.com/theguild</a> 🍾</p><br>We finally have some real data on this topic, and Laura Tacho in her role at DX, the developer experience company, has been studying AI successes and failures in the industry and has released a framework to measure AI impact in an orgs software lifecycle. <p>Check out the video podcast version here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_TWLHkj7U">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_TWLHkj7U</a></p><p><strong>★Show Links★</strong><br><a href="https://getdx.com/blog/introducing-the-ai-measurement-framework/">AI Measurement Framework</a><br><a href="https://getdx.com/report/dx-core-4/">DX Core 4 Framework</a><br><a href="https://getdx.com/blog/how-to-measure-core-4-metrics/">Applying the Core 4 Framework</a></p><p><br><strong>Creators &amp; Guests</strong> </p><ul> <li><a href="https://agenticdevops.fm/people/bret-fisher">Bret Fisher</a> - Host</li> <li><a href="https://agenticdevops.fm/people/beth-fisher">Beth Fisher</a> - Producer</li> <li><a href="https://agenticdevops.fm/people/cristi-cotovan">Cristi Cotovan</a> - Editor</li> <li><a href="https://agenticdevops.fm/people/nirmal-mehta">Nirmal Mehta</a> - Host</li> <li><a href="https://agenticdevops.fm/people/laura-tacho">Laura Tacho</a> - Guest</li> </ul> <ul><li>(00:00) - Teaser</li> <li>(03:05) - Welcome</li> <li>(04:58) - AI Measurement Framework</li> <li>(07:40) - Distilling Fact from Fiction with AI</li> <li>(25:59) - Skepticism and Adoption of AI Tools</li> <li>(28:37) - Measuring AI Impact on Developer Work</li> <li>(49:47) - Assisted vs Agentic</li> <li>(56:39) - More Gains from Training Humans on AI</li> <li>(01:05:16) - Measuring AI's Impact</li> <li>(01:10:55) - Context Switching</li> <li>(01:14:20) - Navigating AI Hype and Reality</li> </ul> <br><p><strong>You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my </strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@BretFisher"><strong>YouTube</strong></a><strong> channel and my weekly newsletter at </strong><a href="https://bret.news/"><strong>bret.news</strong></a><strong>!</strong></p><p>Grab the best <strong>coupons</strong> for my <a href="https://www.bretfisher.com/courses"><strong>Docker and Kubernetes courses</strong></a> on Udemy.<strong> <br></strong>Join my cloud native <strong>DevOps community</strong> <a href="https://devops.fan/"><strong>on Discord</strong></a><strong>.<br></strong>Grab some <strong>merch</strong> at <a href="https://bretfisher.myspreadshop.com/"><strong>Bret's Loot Box</strong></a><br>Homepage <a href="https://bretfisher.com/"><strong>bretfisher.com</strong></a></p> <strong> <a href="https://patreon.com/BretFisher" rel="payment" title="★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★">★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★</a> </strong>

Agentic DevOps : AI Engineering for Infrastructure

Bret Fisher

AI Hype vs. Reality. Real Stats from Laura Tacho, CTO of DX

SEP 25, 202580 MIN
Agentic DevOps : AI Engineering for Infrastructure

AI Hype vs. Reality. Real Stats from Laura Tacho, CTO of DX

SEP 25, 202580 MIN

Description

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Laura Tacho, CTO at DX and long-time friend of the show, to discuss AI usage and success in teams adopting AI and Agents to generate code and perform tasks.🙌 The Agentic DevOps Guild has launched! It's a training + community + mentorship program for engineers wanting to learn the latest CI/CD automation and dive into Agentic DevOps. Meetups are happening now, with new course videos dropping every few weeks. Join the Guild and become your team's leader in AI for infrastructure automation https://www.bretfisher.com/theguild 🍾We finally have some real data on this topic, and Laura Tacho in her role at DX, the developer experience company, has been studying AI successes and failures in the industry and has released a framework to measure AI impact in an orgs software lifecycle. Check out the video podcast version here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_TWLHkj7U★Show Links★AI Measurement FrameworkDX Core 4 FrameworkApplying the Core 4 FrameworkCreators & Guests Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Cristi Cotovan - Editor Nirmal Mehta - Host Laura Tacho - Guest (00:00) - Teaser (03:05) - Welcome (04:58) - AI Measurement Framework (07:40) - Distilling Fact from Fiction with AI (25:59) - Skepticism and Adoption of AI Tools (28:37) - Measuring AI Impact on Developer Work (49:47) - Assisted vs Agentic (56:39) - More Gains from Training Humans on AI (01:05:16) - Measuring AI's Impact (01:10:55) - Context Switching (01:14:20) - Navigating AI Hype and Reality You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news!Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses on Udemy. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★