<p>It’s been 6 months since the last episode, and it feels like everything has changed. Bret and Nirmal catch you up on the increasing pace of AI change, how it will likely affect DevOps engineers and platform builders, and what’s coming on the podcast.</p><p>Check out the video podcast version here: <a href="https://youtu.be/NkqAMAIW5ks">https://youtu.be/NkqAMAIW5ks</a></p><p></p><p>🙌 The Agentic DevOps Guild has launched! It's a training + community + mentorship program for engineers wanting to learn the latest CI/CD automation and dive into Agentic DevOps. Meetups are happening now, with new course videos dropping every few weeks. Join the Guild and become your team's leader in AI for infrastructure automation <a href="https://www.bretfisher.com/theguild">https://www.bretfisher.com/theguild</a> 🍾</p><br><p><br></p><p>★Show Links★</p><ul><li>Agent Harness Skills <a href="https://agentskills.io">https://agentskills.io</a></li><li>Video of Gradel CEO "You can write code faster, can you deliver it faster?" <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXNJ9_sHuM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXNJ9_sHuM</a></li><li>Is your team still hand-chiseling code? <a href="https://www.geocod.io/code-and-coordinates/2026-01-21-hand-chiseling-code/">https://www.geocod.io/code-and-coordinates/2026-01-21-hand-chiseling-code/</a></li></ul><p><strong>Creators &amp; Guests</strong> </p><ul> <li><a href="https://agenticdevops.fm/people/bret-fisher">Bret Fisher</a> - Host</li> <li><a href="https://agenticdevops.fm/people/beth-fisher">Beth Fisher</a> - Producer</li> <li><a href="https://agenticdevops.fm/people/cristi-cotovan">Cristi Cotovan</a> - Editor</li> <li><a href="https://agenticdevops.fm/people/nirmal-mehta">Nirmal Mehta</a> - Host</li> </ul><p></p><p><strong>You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my </strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@BretFisher"><strong>YouTube</strong></a><strong> channel and my weekly newsletter at </strong><a href="https://bret.news/"><strong>bret.news</strong></a><strong>!</strong></p><p>Grab the best <strong>coupons</strong> for my <a href="https://www.bretfisher.com/courses"><strong>Docker and Kubernetes courses</strong></a> on Udemy.<strong> <br></strong>Join my cloud native <strong>DevOps community</strong> <a href="https://devops.fan/"><strong>on Discord</strong></a><strong>.<br></strong>Grab some <strong>merch</strong> at <a href="https://bretfisher.myspreadshop.com/"><strong>Bret's Loot Box</strong></a><br>Homepage <a href="https://bretfisher.com/"><strong>bretfisher.com</strong></a></p> <ul><li>(00:00) - ADOP - Feb 26, 2026</li> <li>(02:23) - Introduction</li> <li>(03:00) - Season Two Kickoff </li> <li>(04:34) - Productivity Debate and Two AI Camps</li> <li>(06:48) - Ops View from Dev Retreats</li> <li>(10:05) - Automation Debt and App Tsunami</li> <li>(16:29) - Frontier Models Changed Everything</li> <li>(22:29) - Red Pill vs Blue Pill Skepticism</li> <li>(25:31) - Three Focus Areas for DevOps</li> <li>(27:51) - GitHub Copilot and Agentic Workflows</li> <li>(31:17) - Harnesses That Run Longer</li> <li>(31:51) - Skills As SOPs</li> <li>(34:30) - Guardrails For App Tsunami</li> <li>(36:30) - Agent Orchestration a nd Kubernetes</li> <li>(37:50) - Shadow IT Goes AI </li> <li>(38:30) - Inner Loop Diagram Breakdown</li> <li>(40:54) - AI Code Review Councils</li> <li>(43:09) - Context Layer And Docs Debt</li> <li>(49:23) - Career Waves to Agent Ops</li> <li>(57:29) - Future Guests and Episodes</li> <li>(01:00:45) - </li> </ul> <strong> <a href="https://patreon.com/BretFisher" rel="payment" title="★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★">★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★</a> </strong>

Agentic DevOps : AI Engineering for Infrastructure

Bret Fisher

Four Months Felt Like Four Years

MAR 26, 202660 MIN
Agentic DevOps : AI Engineering for Infrastructure

Four Months Felt Like Four Years

MAR 26, 202660 MIN

Description

It’s been 6 months since the last episode, and it feels like everything has changed. Bret and Nirmal catch you up on the increasing pace of AI change, how it will likely affect DevOps engineers and platform builders, and what’s coming on the podcast.Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/NkqAMAIW5ks🙌 The Agentic DevOps Guild has launched! It's a training + community + mentorship program for engineers wanting to learn the latest CI/CD automation and dive into Agentic DevOps. Meetups are happening now, with new course videos dropping every few weeks. Join the Guild and become your team's leader in AI for infrastructure automation https://www.bretfisher.com/theguild 🍾★Show Links★Agent Harness Skills https://agentskills.ioVideo of Gradel CEO "You can write code faster, can you deliver it faster?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXNJ9_sHuMIs your team still hand-chiseling code? https://www.geocod.io/code-and-coordinates/2026-01-21-hand-chiseling-code/Creators & Guests Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Cristi Cotovan - Editor Nirmal Mehta - Host You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news!Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses on Udemy. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - ADOP - Feb 26, 2026 (02:23) - Introduction (03:00) - Season Two Kickoff (04:34) - Productivity Debate and Two AI Camps (06:48) - Ops View from Dev Retreats (10:05) - Automation Debt and App Tsunami (16:29) - Frontier Models Changed Everything (22:29) - Red Pill vs Blue Pill Skepticism (25:31) - Three Focus Areas for DevOps (27:51) - GitHub Copilot and Agentic Workflows (31:17) - Harnesses That Run Longer (31:51) - Skills As SOPs (34:30) - Guardrails For App Tsunami (36:30) - Agent Orchestration a nd Kubernetes (37:50) - Shadow IT Goes AI (38:30) - Inner Loop Diagram Breakdown (40:54) - AI Code Review Councils (43:09) - Context Layer And Docs Debt (49:23) - Career Waves to Agent Ops (57:29) - Future Guests and Episodes (01:00:45) - ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★