Recent high-profile tragedies, FAA understaffing and underinvestment, and ballooning TSA lines during the government shutdown have many questioning whether U.S. air travel is as safe as we've been told — but what's the reality? And how do we make it safer, cheaper, and more comfortable? Darryl Campbell is the aviation-safety correspondent for The Verge. We discuss potentially privatizing the TSA, why we're facing a shortage of air traffic controllers and what we can do about it, and how air travel got needlessly politicized. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices