Dan discusses crappy bosses, privilege, the music industry and "aboutism" with Kevin Drew, frontman to the iconic genre-busting indie rock ensemble Broken Social Scene. Among other things, they chat about Ennio Morricone's film scores, how naivety can be a superpower in creative settings, how social media has removed mystery from music discovery, the origins and popular rise of Broken Social Scene, and how Dan got signed to Kevin's label Arts & Crafts despite Kevin not liking his music. This episode features a surprise needle drop of "You Don't Wanna Leave It Alone" by J.E. Sunde.