Hear Dan discuss family, art, and the music business with esteemed rapper Shad. Among other things, they chat about Shad's family's displacement throughout Africa before settling in Canada, his scary realization that music mattered to him, supporting Common in his early days, sidestepping the word "artist" and focusing on whatever sounds fun, the fortuitous timing of "Hip Hop Evolution", the shifting sands of the music industry, and how your kids don't give a crap about your career. This episode features a surprise needle drop of "Morgana" by Hank May.