Heather and Derek both end up confessing more than they planned to. Derek admits he has two and a half months of bot use behind him and will only use it more from here. Heather admits she runs two terminals at once so she never runs out of AI credits.
They cover the difference between how Derek uses AI for development and how Heather uses it for marketing and research, including why hallucinations still trip her up more than they do him. Derek explains skills in Claude Code for the first time in a way that actually makes sense for non-developers.
The episode also covers what Derek saw happening at Bitcoin Takeover in Austin, where people from the Soapbox ecosystem were setting up OpenClaw on donated laptops for activists who needed it. Then the conversation shifts to Primal 3.0, which launched this week with a new Spark wallet, polls, and a gift chooser, and how it compares to Ditto 2.0. Derek has opinions. He also has a Ditto Deck he built two weeks ago that has not been merged yet and would like their boss, Alex, to know that.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:35 Heather Stages the Intervention
03:21 Zach Braff Has an AI Girlfriend
05:46 Derek Goes Outside More Because of AI
07:57 The Workaholic Problem
10:53 The AI Honeymoon Phase Theory
14:49 How Heather and Derek Use AI Differently
17:42 Hallucinations and Fact-Checking
22:25 What Skills Are and Why They Save Time
26:07 Using AI to Stand Out in a Job Search
31:11 OpenClaw Events Are Still Happening Worldwide
33:29 Activists and Donated Laptops in Austin
35:21 Should Derek Try Callie?
40:17 Ditto Themes and MySpace Nostalgia
41:18 Gary Vee Says Social Media Is Over
43:06 Primal 3.0 Breakdown
51:07 Ditto 2.0 vs Primal 3.0
53:34 Be Poly on Nostr
55:26 Heather's Golf Instructor Fixed Her in Five Minutes
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