Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Startup Wins, host Brandon Na sits down with his friend Bill Mastin, CEO of Cadient, for a candid and fascinating conversation on startups, resilience, and how AI is transforming the future of business faster than most people realize.Bill shares his journey from early education technology work and corporate experience to building and leading high-growth software companies. Along the way, he breaks down what most founders learn the hard way: supply doesn’t create demand, product-market fit is everything, and the startup game is not for the faint of heart.The conversation takes a deep turn into the future of SaaS, hiring technology, and AI-driven recruiting, including how companies are now being forced to use AI to combat AI—especially as job applicants use tools to optimize resumes at scale.Bill also shares insights into Learn, a microlearning platform he helped build that’s been described as “TikTok for workforce training,” and explains why the future of learning is contextual, social, and powered by community-generated knowledge.If you're a founder, operator, investor, or just obsessed with where tech is headed, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.In this episode, we cover:Bill’s path from education tech to startup leadershipWhy startups demand resilience (and how to build it)The truth about product-market fitWhy SaaS is undergoing a massive transformationHow AI is changing hiring, recruiting, and workforce retentionWhy companies must now “fight AI with AI”What the future of microlearning and corporate training looks likeBill’s best advice to anyone building a company today🎧 New episodes of Startup Wins drop twice a month—subscribe and stay winning.Connect with Bill Mastin on LinkedIn Hosted by: Brandon NaStartup Wins on Apple PodcastsStartup Wins on LinkedInStartup Wins on SpotifyHosted by Brandon Na, Managing General Partner of Good Peoples Ventures